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Old 2003-07-21, 04:38 AM   [Ignore Me] #31
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IMO they made the Lasher "n00b" freindly. Just like they wanted to. I read an interview recently stating that this is the what the game industry is driving for. Pleasing the casual gamer. Hardcore gamers are never gonna be happy when the puppet masters posess this mentality. Because when you make anything geared for the "casual gamer" n00bs little to no skill is required.

While the lasher is now an effective weapon. I would have rather it still taken skill to use. I heard from some sources that they wanted to make indoor fighting more fun and interesting. I think they accomplished that. I used the MCG prepatch and i never had any issues with it. I could scavenge one and kick ass with it just fine. But it's how it's used that is key. After my own expeience with the MCG prepatch i would say that if i wanted to n00bify the MCG i would do exaclty as they have done. IMO HA is now balanced.

Where would one find a "mobility" bonus in a HA weapon? Well lets see here. The factor that would have to be considered would be. ROF = MCG, Damage = JH, and projectile speed = Lasher? If VS were to get a "true" mobility bonus IMO it would and should be in projectile speed. But thats not the case where VS weapons are concerned. Gimped right from the start with the slowest projectile.

Since a faster projectile with lower ROF and/or a better COF would take skills. They went the other way with it and made it somewhat of a spamming weapon. But i'll live with it cuz the other empires got to live with their lame shortcomings aswell. ATM my favorite weapon combo for reinforced armor the lasher/JH in closer situations one picks up where the other leaves off. At least to me it does. I'm not some JH guru so i'm sure this is arguable.

I certed Thresher a couple days ago to check out what was wrong with it and also after the patch if i still didn't like it i could unlearn it right away. After using the new model i decided i'm gonna keep it. Since i've caught big air off soft targets. The gun could use a bigger clip. But eh... i don't have to gun.
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Old 2003-07-21, 09:31 AM   [Ignore Me] #32
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Okay. I have a TR a Vs and NC character. I have just started with the VS and Tr, but I have looted plenty of their weapons before on NC. From the TR I love the Cycler, Great rate of Fire. The VS lasher has a nice Lash effect. I like it pretty nice now. This is my first time playing around with the NC Jh and I don't think I like it. Last night it was like 5 shots to kill a reinforced infantry at Close Quarters. I have tried full auto and single shot. The Lasher still does move kind of slow. Was shooting at a mosq that was sitting over our base last night. Got the shots off and he wasn't even moving. Then a reavor flew up there from ground level and blasted him before the bolts could even reach him. Do not like the damage the lasher does from NC infantry. 3 shots dead, even with second wind implant. I like the Vs med assualt rifle. I love the dual effect of armor piercing and standard fire in the same weapon. The TR miniChaingun still kind of sucks at long range, but it is not suppose to be for long range. Use it up close you will like it. I have and walked through a lot of infantry with it. I mean damn use the cycler at range and then the MCG at CQC(close quarters combat). If you were ever in the military you would understand this. Certain weapons for certain cituations. Online have found myself hung out there with the wrong stuff for what was going on. You just have to improvise or die respawn and get the right shiznit. Okay enough about this. My real reason for the post was about the patch.

Anyone still having trouble with doors. Me and My GF were unable to hack any doors last night. You get the Disable IFF message and try to hack the door but no progress bar. Before you got nothing at all. now you get no bar. Moved all around the IFF lock to try and get it. I don't know what happened either.

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Old 2003-07-21, 11:21 AM   [Ignore Me] #33
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I had never realized until after the patch the way the lasher works, that it rips your health away and barely touches your armor. I died and still had 85 armor (reinforced) yesterday when I turned a corner and was face to face with a lasher user with my MCG out. I'm not complaining about it, it actually makes sense based on what the weapon is. I didn't have anybody try to use the lasher from any sort of distance but every time I ran into a lasher user inside a base we were so close together I had no chance to get enough distance to try to use the strength of the MCG. At least I know I did good damage to the people before I went down I suppose.
I also had somebody sit in a hallway waiting for me to spawn so that he could claim my MCG. That was a first.
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