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Old 2003-08-07, 12:28 AM   [Ignore Me] #31
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Old 2003-08-07, 12:40 AM   [Ignore Me] #32
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Originally posted by Setari
uh, a couple words...Second Rennaissance (The Animatrix)

Ack! worse part is the damned thing is beleivable
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Old 2003-08-07, 12:41 AM   [Ignore Me] #33
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i know spider...thats what i dont like about it..
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Old 2003-08-07, 01:22 AM   [Ignore Me] #34
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ohh stfu, please, its not a suit that does everything for you and it just needs a human inside to work, THATS matrix, this is just like power armor, that has the ability to bandage wounds, has alot of armor, and has a mini computer in it to help manage the battle, everything the suit does is controlled by the human, just like a suit


and we wont have anything even able to mimic the human brain for at least the next 80 years, and even further for a computer to be able to think on its own.
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Old 2003-08-07, 01:24 AM   [Ignore Me] #35
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I know, we were just saying those advancement will eventually lead to nanites smart enough to revolt

Luckly we will all be dead by then!
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Old 2003-08-07, 01:24 AM   [Ignore Me] #36
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Originally posted by Everay
ohh stfu, please, its not a suit that does everything for you and it just needs a human inside to work, THATS matrix, this is just like power armor, that has the ability to bandage wounds, has alot of armor, and has a mini computer in it to help manage the battle, everything the suit does is controlled by the human, just like a suit
I believe the post by Mr1337duck which i was referring to didnt mean the suit..
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Old 2003-08-07, 01:31 AM   [Ignore Me] #37
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and we wont have anything even able to mimic the human brain for at least the next 80 years, and even further for a computer to be able to think on its own.

the edit from above
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Old 2003-08-07, 01:46 AM   [Ignore Me] #38
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I seriously doubt we'd ever use real AI. I mean, what's the point? You use machines to do jobs that humans can't do, or that we wouldn't want to do. Why give it actual AI if it's doing stuff that we ourselves don't want to do? THe last thing you want is for your robo-janitor to start bitching and moaning about his job sucking and him not getting paid enough. Programming to allow it to do its job very well is absolutely all you need. It doesn't need to be able to learn or adapt or anything else. Even still, in the day that we have machines to handle crap jobs like janitorial work or what have you, I'm sure you'll have human operators overseeing their work to make sure they are doing it right and to solve any problems which may occur. Same goes for the day when we're using machines to fight our wars for us. Humans overseeing the work of the mindless machinery eliminates the need for AI entirely.
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Old 2003-08-07, 03:11 AM   [Ignore Me] #39
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truth is mate, when i say 80 years, i mean thats when they plan to have that done, theyre already working on it, i think in australia, they do all the cool science shit there, i would give you the link, but hell if i know where it is now
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Old 2003-08-07, 02:02 PM   [Ignore Me] #40
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The coolest thing about the LW system is that it has an arm mounted semi-auto arm cannon. Single barrel. But with four dumbfire mini rockets!

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Old 2003-08-07, 02:03 PM   [Ignore Me] #41
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Originally posted by Warborn
THe last thing you want is for your robo-janitor to start bitching and moaning about his job sucking and him not getting paid enough.
Ala Marvin from the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy?

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Old 2003-08-07, 02:19 PM   [Ignore Me] #42
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Naturally there will be a counter for this, likely EMP. Like to see your little robots work without power, muahahaha! But I think the military could make some serious money selling stuff like that to the public. Bodyguards and police would love stuff like that.

Obviously it would be toned down a bit, instead of rockets and automatic weapons, maybe the nanotech and a semi-automatic rifle. But the people should always be able to overthrow a tyrannical government.
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Old 2003-08-07, 02:25 PM   [Ignore Me] #43
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Warborn:

To relay the information back to soldiers and for the soldiers to oversee and operate the combat machines would be time consuming. The human element should be left in; but practically, I think as AI gets better, it will replace huma intervention.

AI is not the same concept as self-awareness. No matter how intelligent a machine is; the goal is to have it do it's job better and better without a human watching it. A sophisicated AI would not make the machine "moan and groan" but would make it do it's job better.

Programming it would make it moan and groan. To my knowledge AI cannot program itself; simply because this requires an objective, ultimate purpose in mind. Machines know one purpose; their objectives programmed into themselves. An AI would acheive better facillitation and completetion of those objectives.

Others:

Nano-technology is an amazing field of emerging science. As with any science, proper care must be inplaced to ensure precatution if undertaken.

Nanites affect things at the molecular level. This could grant a surgeon repairing a brain without making a incision, or grant a "corrupt" individual the ability to infect thousands of people with nanoprobes which consume and rearrange matter. Essentially; he can turn you into a car; a couch, a lamp et cetera.

Nano assemblers must get their atoms from somewhere.
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Old 2003-08-07, 02:28 PM   [Ignore Me] #44
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I read an article last year that said in no unclear terms that the US Army was borrowing design elements from Halo's Mjolnir battle armor for its new infantry armor. It turns out that people still play with action figures into their adulthood, even if the action figure is a human being.

The irony of course is that economic warfare will be the only relevant battleground until humanity faces a natural cataclysm of some sort.
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Old 2003-08-08, 12:44 PM   [Ignore Me] #45
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Well that's simple you don't give them free will. Never understood why people in movies want to give robots free will, or even actual AI. They don't need to be able to do complex philosophocal reasoning. Just make them smart enough to do the job they're built for.

Nano tech will be cool once they actually get it to work, which they're quite a ways away from doing. Of course what happens if you get a little electrocuted or a bad eletrical storm comes through? I don't think I'd want millions of tiny robots in me at that point

Quantum computers would be great. I think at this point though they're purely theorectical and no one can even be sure they're a possibility.
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