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2003-08-18, 07:38 PM | [Ignore Me] #34 | |||
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(please dont ban me! i ph33r your nazi pwers) IMO, ignorant asshats that have been to a wak church 2 or 3 times in their life and have never meditated while focusing on gone, and being ignorant and prematurely judgemental. (in no way am i calling you an ignorant asshat hamma 'please no ban this is just my opinion') Hamma, i could care less what you do in your life, but i dont want you to judge "church" by a church that has a preacher saying if you dont believe in exacly what we are saying you will go to hell. ONLY god will judge you and only he should. In almost all threads i agree with you (except probabley the marijuana thread, we all know you do drugs )
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2003-08-18, 07:40 PM | [Ignore Me] #35 | ||||||
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awwwww hamma, why're you leaving
i was just about to reply... btw, i don't believe there is anything wrong with discussing politics/religion/morality/money or any other sensitive topic for this reason: We all seem to reasonably intelligent and able to engage in a friendly debate (well, except for a couple of posts ) Therefore, why not continue to discuss? I'll keep it low-key if yall will. The reason I love discussing these things is that the only way you can be sure on your convictions is to debate them openly and honestly. Don't fear your convictions. And for sure do not fear your ability to defend those convictions! (that just means you're out of practice!) One of the most valuable lessons that my Catholic faith has taught me is to question everything. So let us question! Believe me when I say that I have an open mind. Two years ago I argued myself into being against the death-penalty, despite the fact that I am a staunch conservative. There's nothing I love more than a good debate, and if anyone else here agrees, then let's have us one! so here we go:
I think you would agree when I say that Christianity simplified to the "heaven/hell game show" would not have drawn the numbers of followers that it has. It's very much more.
but do yourself a favor and honestly, ask your parents why they go. and if they can't give you a good reason other than "because it makes me feel good.", then go ask someone else to give you a reason. There are a lot of people that go to Church every Sunday because it "makes them feel good." To a lot of people, that's all they need to know. But for people like you and me, we need to "why?". Why does it make you feel good? Is there marijuana in that inscence? Is God really reaching out to you through the Eucharist? It's commendable to have convictions, but one thing you should never deny yourself is the freedom to continuously question. If nothing else, it gives you more ammo to defeat your opponents. Then you can come back here and debate me one on one
Christianity is about life. Otherwise, why would God have created us? Do you really think that God created us just to see whether or not we would get into heaven? Does God not know that whenever he creates us? (yeah i know, enter the "fate vs. free-will" debate...we may get to that ) Living is what we're here for, not dieing. Death is simply a side-effect of the gift that we have all been given.
Our faith is difficult to defend, but it's not impossible. It just takes time and an understanding of what you believe. Above all, it takes debate and research. Ok that's enough for now. I'll try to respond to posts as I see them (could use some help from fellow Christians when you can ) |
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2003-08-18, 07:40 PM | [Ignore Me] #36 | |||
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So, in my book, Ill be lookin down on you from heaven while you sit in the Playboy mansion's photo studio with your hands tied behind your back (my idea of hell). so, i curse your name and will personally piss on your grave when you die |
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2003-08-18, 07:57 PM | [Ignore Me] #38 | ||
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Another thread turned into a battlefield:
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The gun katas. Through analysis of thousands of recorded gunfights, the Cleric has determined that the geometric distribution of antagonists in any gun battle is a statistically predictable element. The gun kata treats the gun as a total weapon, each fluid position representing a maximum kill zone, inflicting maximum damage on the maximum number of opponents while keeping the defender clear of the statistically traditional trajectories of return fire. By the rote mastery of this art, your firing efficiency will rise by no less than 120%. The difference of a 63% increase to lethal proficiency makes the master of the gun katas an adversary not to be taken lightly. |
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2003-08-18, 08:08 PM | [Ignore Me] #41 | |||
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And personnaly I beleive life without sex (chastity) until marriage would be hmmmm boring..
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2003-08-18, 08:10 PM | [Ignore Me] #42 | ||
if we're going to turn this into a religious debate (which I'm fine with, I'm a Christain and proud of it) we're going to keep it civil.
If you have nothing good to say, don't say it. I realize that if I delete a post that was made that obviously is just to 'make a joke' or 'spit on someone's religion' that I am censoring you, so I won't do it. However, realize that there are many on this board who are going to lose respect for you and your comments.
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2003-08-18, 08:24 PM | [Ignore Me] #44 | |||
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2003-08-18, 08:26 PM | [Ignore Me] #45 | ||
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.......this went from Squeekys GF bringing him back to church to pissing on others graves and saying religion is a cult............cool....but IMO religion was created to make people believe there was a heaven and hell so that everyone would want to be good in life and treat others with respect,people would fear hell and so wouldnt do such terriable things and whoever created religion hoped this would make the world a better place,which in truth it sorta did,so it almost is a cult(in a way) but for those that actually believe its real then it makes them a better person because they hope to go to heaven,Now i know this is kinda far fetched but thats MO,religion was created to bring families and communities together,which it also did,so i think religion works for the people that believe its real
EDIT: oh and flames and comments welcome
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