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Old 2003-01-03, 05:38 PM   [Ignore Me] #46
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From the pics of all the tanks it looks like the VS has the only independant turret unless the TR chain gun turret moves indepant of the main gun. The NC tank dosen't have an independant turrent all of its guns are on one turret faceing the same way. So the VS may have less armor but, it can cover two directions at once with its guns unlike the NC tank unless, it's the same thing with the chain gun turret if it's fixed on the TR tank. With the pics on the tanks though I like the traditional look of the Vanguard the best but, it's almost a tie with the VS tank on looks. The TR tank just looks a little strange with two main cannons if it had one big gun instead of two smaller ones it would look a bit better.
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Old 2003-01-03, 06:10 PM   [Ignore Me] #47
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Yeah yeah yeah... Tank this. Tank that. Love tanks. But no one is talking about the buggies.

I think that some people will really hate being in buggies, while others will really love them.

People who can't stand getting shot out of a vehicle will tend to steer clear of them (and the quads).

People who like speed, as a rule, will love the lighter vehicles.

In terms of raw firepower, I think the TR buggy is going to come out on top. 20mm cannon + grenade launcher. That means it can engage two seperate targets (not including ramming).

In terms of single shot power, the NC buggy definitely comes out on top. That thing looks like an over-sized pheonix, and may well be guided like one. Getting sniped by that thing wouldn't be much fun, no matter what you're wearing (or driving for that matter).

And, of course, the VS wins in the manuverability department. Strafing might not be as much of a deal on something that's already quite manuverable (as with the tank), but quite useful none the less. And lets not forget the ability to cross water. That alone will give the VS a significant advantage on a number of continents.

"Bridges? We don' need no steenkeeng bridges!"

And I'm not sure vanu have to reload either, now that I think about it. There's no way those batteries will fit into a beamer, but they all use the same sized "clips".

Vanu might not be so bad after all... so long as you're willing to give up your masculen... er... genes.
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Old 2003-01-03, 06:21 PM   [Ignore Me] #48
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TR has a high ROF, the NC have pound for pound the more firepower, and the VS have manuverability. As far as crossing water I remember reading some where that the VS vehicles will sink if they go too far out. I don't think that the going over water would really matter.

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Old 2003-01-03, 06:23 PM   [Ignore Me] #49
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AGH! THEY AREN'T CALLED CLIPS! MAGS how hard is that MAGS! as in MAGAZINES! and im not talkign about the damn VS powercells.
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Old 2003-01-03, 07:25 PM   [Ignore Me] #50
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The Prowler chainguns are directly in line with the main guns and are not on a separate turret. The NC 20 mm cannon are offcenter so they will have a slightly different aimpoint than the NC main gun.

Your point about the VS Magrider being able to engage two targets at once is valid so long as it is the driver who fights the main gun and the gunner on the turret. This would help balance the fact that the Magrider cannot fight the main gun in a hulldown position.
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Old 2003-01-03, 07:30 PM   [Ignore Me] #51
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Yeah VS weapons rock since they all use the same clips as any other VS weapon, TR and NC will have to find the right clip before being able to reload if they round out of ammo out in the field, plus they have to figure out the right amount of each clip before they leave. Clips, clips, clips, it's all about the clips.



Ok not that's out of the way back to the vehicles.

I do indeed think the TR buggy will be dangerous as well as the NC but i'm anxious to know the specs on the particle cannon or whatever. That's what sucks we can't really compare anything since we don't have the info.
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Old 2003-01-03, 07:43 PM   [Ignore Me] #52
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Isn't the Vanu tank the only one that doesn't have a turret...Sort of useless for defending but I guess the MAXes can defend.
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Old 2003-01-03, 07:50 PM   [Ignore Me] #53
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What tank are you looking at? Or you just trying to bring down the VS.

Our tank kicks ass!
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Old 2003-01-03, 08:01 PM   [Ignore Me] #54
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I thought the Vanu's cannon wasn't turreted..heh..So it has no turret..and I wasn't bad mouthing it but stating a fact. Those type of tnaks existed and they weren't useful for defending..
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Old 2003-01-03, 08:13 PM   [Ignore Me] #55
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I know i was just playing (i always am ).

Seriously though i think the VS tank will be a very good threat to the other empire tanks. Our tank is the only 1 that can target 2 different targets at the same time(or so it seems anyway from the pics) and it will most likely be faster and more maneuverable. Yay for us!
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Old 2003-01-03, 09:01 PM   [Ignore Me] #56
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As long as you start off with a better position. If not you'll always be starfing which will allow the turret to track you a little better than the VS tank can.
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Old 2003-01-04, 02:26 AM   [Ignore Me] #57
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From what I can tell about the NC vehicle trends, they are mainly for takeing out other vehicles. They leave the infantry to be delt with by infantry.

The Vangaurd has the BFG of the game, most powerful bullet, but low ROF. This makes it an exelent tank buster, but it has limited anti-infantry ability. It has 2 20mms, but those are just ment to keep infantry from runing up and hacking at it with knives until it dies. If you like big explosions, but dont like enemy tanks, hop on in.

The Enforcer has a rocket launcher on top. While this hasn't been stated directly by a dev, the weapon on top has openings in the front and back(the one in the back being for loading and the rockets propelent to escape). This sudgests it it for takeing out enemy buggys and tanks, and again limited anti-infantry ability aside from its front bummper.

From what I can tell about TR weapon designs, they are for infantry support. This supports the TRs history of fighting against under-funded and poorly equiped foes.

The Prowler has duel main-guns for takeing out smaller vehicles such as light tanks and buggies, but lacks a little bit of a punch against heavier armor. Its duel-chainguns are for suppressive fire and, again, destroying buggies.

The Marauder is an infantry blending machine. 20mm chaingun for makeing swiss cheeze, and a greanade launcher for light-tanks, buggies, and groups of infantry. If you want some nicely tenderized meat, this is your vehicle.

Not enough is known of the Vanu vehicles to make any speculations.
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