Where are the machine guns?

[bryan25]

Originally Posted by Ed the MAD

automatic weapons are only good for one thing. supressive fire.

since i have seen noone use small unit tactics effectively, i'm going to assume noone knows what the hell supressive fire is.

basically, a light machinegune, or Squad Automatic Weapon(SAW), is issued to two men in a squad, one to each fire team. the SAW is used to keep the enimy's heads down to allow the rest of the squad to either, advance or retreat with a minumum of freindly casualties. i have not seen anyone using this sort of tactics anywhere outside of the military, or PaintBall, and especially not in Planetside. mainly due to the tendency of players going off on their own with no real structure within units. simply put, a machinegun will do you about as much good as a soundless speaker.


one more thing. for the record, the M60 is a Medium Machinegun. it goes like this, M204(5.56mm)=LMG/SAW, M240(7.62)=MMG, M2(.50[12.7])=HMG. it's all about the calibur of ammunition. pistol caliburs are used by Submachineguns, intermediate Caliburs are used in Light Machineguns, Rifle caliburs are used in Medium Machineguns, and heavy, Anti-Materiel caliburs are used by the heavy Machineguns.

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[JakeLogan]

Originally Posted by Jagd

The Pounder, Dual-Cycler and MCG are all somewhat effective at suppressive fire. The Vanu Quasar does an ok job (mostly because most grunts run away when they see one), but the NC have nada. Actually, base turrets are pretty good for making people duck and cover. When they're manned and the gunner is paying attention to you, you're fucked unless you can hide behind something ASAP.

yeah the but the NC got the phoenix that can fire around blind corners to take care of turrets and it is a quite effective AI weapon. sure it takes 3-4 shots can't remember the exact number but once that thing hits you and you have no idea where the guy is you tend to run.

[Doppler]

Wow lasted to page two before becoming a balance whine i'm impressed. Dont try calling the phoenix a supresive weapon thats bs.

Secondly Ed, your an ass.

[Vick]

PS needs a prone position, and HA should be deployable MGs.

[Jagd]

I agree, we should be able to lie down and fire. It would be nice to see a couple new common pool HA weapons, like a mortar and a heavy machine gun. Remember that the MCG is a mini-chaingun, after all, so there is room to make a beefier one, as long as it was gimped in some other way (ie: deployed, prone, etc).

[TheN00b]

Prone would be a great idea. I have been thinking about this for some time, and it would be an incredibly useful tool for snipers, MCGs, and AV/AA. How big of a reduction in COF should a prone player have in your opinion?

[Jagd]

A major reduction, but unfortunately that would probably unbalance every fricken weapon in the game, not to mention guarantee that everyone starts turning off flora.

[Vick]

Walking needs a COF boost of running, and surge needs a COF nerf.

There, I fixed the game.

[Vper54]

I still say we need some type of supressive fire weapon for infantry. It could get into Heavy assault.

[Jagd]

Ah, but you forget that CoF doesn't really affect shotgun weapons at close range. Since the entry wound and the CoF are the size of a basketball, you are guaranteed to hurt them as long as you keep the crosshairs near their chest.

[Vick]

Ok, true.

[Acaila]

I am all for any new free content.

[Doppler]

The devs have said in the past that they considered the prone position but discarded the idea because it turned the game into sniperside as well as slowing down the gameplay and creating cliping issues.

[Ed the MAD]

Originally Posted by Doppler

Secondly Ed, your an ass.

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[FraudulentBob]

The M204 is a LMG, and the M203 is an M16 w/a 40mm grenade launcher mounted on the bottom, get yer shit straight.