The Sweeper simply...Owns - Page 2

BadAsh · 2004-01-09, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by Rayder

That's strange... I thought the Jackhammer did that... ah well, I'm just stupid.

Obviously he made a typo in his post... "The sweeper does more amor and health damage each shot, has a larger clip and fires at a faster rate." Should have read: "The JackHammer does..."

BadAsh · 2004-01-09, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by noxious

The Jackhammer and Lasher are both superior weapons, hands down. There is no question. Weather or not they are 4 cert points better.. that is what is debateable.

I agree with that statement and would add that the MCG is also superior to the Sweeper. Also the empire MA weapons own just as much... Gimme a Gauss or a Cycler and you can have your Sweeper.

With my NC character I have a fav loadout that is a Rexo with a JH and a Gauss rifle. I use the JH for CQB and the Gauss for longer ranges. This is especially effective in the caverns where MA and snipers take up firing positions from a safe elevation.

Neon Apocalypse · 2004-01-09, 03:36 PM

i like sweeper but tend not to use it since i go with the agile-lasher-and health setup for my killing, sweeper is good but for me its just not fast enough, when im around lots of enemys i need to be able to shoot fast to take them down, and the sweeper is a better weapon for being a distance from your opponent, and it doesnt do good in a large open field with lots of enemys, if you kill one you have like 1 shot left and have to reload, by the time you reload your dead, with the lasher you have slightly less range but you can take down more guys with you

Krinsath · 2004-01-09, 03:41 PM

I believe that's the point though. Yes, the JH is an awesome and fearsome weapon...as is the lasher and MCG. The thing is that they're all 6 cert points.

The Sweeper is comparable (though not better) for only 2. That's 4 cert points that can be spent on something else (such as a tank or RExo or medic or eng). So really, is it worth it to have the HA weapon instead of sticking with the commonly available Sweeper.

Of course, you can just take the same cert points and get Uni-MAX...AI MAX beats the HA 8 times out of 10 in a straight 1 on 1.

Neon Apocalypse · 2004-01-09, 03:47 PM

maybe if i was NC i wouldnt use JH, but for VS its pretty much necessary for me to use lasher, plus i just love using it, its fun

Queensidecastle · 2004-01-09, 04:01 PM

damnit, lol yes that was a typo. I am going to go back and fix that Heh, heh

Angel_of_Death · 2004-01-09, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by noxious

Weather or not they are 4 cert points better.. that is what is debateable.

Exactly.

Sweeper is good for a MA weapon, but it's just a joke compared to the JH. Is the JH 4 points better? Hell yes, As for the other weapons...

Any above average player with a lasher indoors can raise 8 kinds of hell in there. Someone said: sure just point and spray. Whoever said that clearly is not VS, and is an idiot. With only 20 slow-speed energy balls per clip, every shot has to count if you're in the mood to live. Meaning taking time, guessing ( yes guessing where they are going to be by the time that ball gets there) and obviously aiming.

And isn't the MCG just point and spray as well? I can't say the same for JH....because it drops people like flies.

BadAsh · 2004-01-09, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by Angel_of_Death

Exactly.

Sweeper is good for a MA weapon, but it's just a joke compared to the JH. Is the JH 4 points better? Hell yes, As for the other weapons...

Any above average player with a lasher indoors can raise 8 kinds of hell in there. Someone said: sure just point and spray. Whoever said that clearly is not VS, and is an idiot. With only 20 slow-speed energy balls per clip, every shot has to count if you're in the mood to live. Meaning taking time, guessing ( yes guessing where they are going to be by the time that ball gets there) and obviously aiming.

And isn't the MCG just point and spray as well? I can't say the same for JH....because it drops people like flies.

Well...

MCG = aim and shoot at short to med range
JH = get REALLY close, aim and shoot
Lasher = aim where you predict they will go or spam an area you don't want them to go into

With any of these weapons if you don't aim you will just spend lots of ammo before you die while getting no kills.