Reaver Vs. Mosquito - Page 3

dirtylove · 2004-01-19, 11:34 PM

Despite being new I'll try to answer this ;p

I am Air Cav and prefer the Reaver if available over the Mosk. The reason for this is simple: When in big battles I can swing a Mosk to my ground support and let them fire away to derail it from shooting me down. So far this tactic seems to work.

The rockets used in combination with the cannon can whipe out inf. with little problem, and the same goes for most ground support. Just unleash your rockets, switch to guins and finish them off. If needed use the afterburners to bug out and reload. Turn back and frag some more ;p

Hope this helps.

Queensidecastle · 2004-01-20, 12:41 AM

I destroy libs for most of my AA reaver kills, there like little flying coffins, i get the lib they all eject then i fly to the ground and rocket them, or i shoot one doen the lands in the middle of a cortyard and kills a fully loaded galaxy

Most liberators are flying in bomber formation and either dont have a tailgunner or the tailgunner just sucks. Reavers are fodder for Liberators that are flying Gunship. 35mm is murder and only takes 8 seconds of sustained fire to take out a reaver. The turning radius is faster than a Reaver can strafe and a quality prepaired Lib pilot sends Reavers to the spawn room with ease. In fact a fresh lib doesnt even need to move out of the way of a full salvo of rockets if it is a standoff (not that rockets can hit a lib anyways) What I have noticed lately is that good reaver pilots just dont even try to attack libs that arent doing bombing runs anymore

Candle · 2004-01-20, 06:26 AM

magrider > any aircraft
sorry, but it is just true! the direct fire nature of its main gun (and the main gun being a TANK gun) means that if a mossie or reaver tries to attack, it is toast in seconds! gal's, lodes and libs just take a bit longer to kill! they can't escape by going over water, altough in heavily mountinous areas, they have a chance to escape... but normally with about 10% health... if they don't take the chance... and try to get the tank kill (why do people try?) and come round for a second pass (normally on 1/2 health) then again, htey are toast.

magrider > van > prowler
ok, we have less armour, and a weaker gun, but any decent mag crew will polish off any nme armour in short order.

the thing that helps make a good tank crew is TS. simple.
gunner "nme prowler 4 o'clock, 100m!" (very rough distance estimates)
driver "rgr, pulling right"
*meanwhile the gunner is landing hits on the prowler*
gunner "he has a bead on us, shells incomming"
*more hits on the prowler*
driver "gonna go through these trees" (exchange for hill or water)
*prowlers shells land on the trees behind*
*mag exits trees and the full barage resumes on the prowler leading to a dead prowler with minimal damage to the mag*

But that was a bit OT. IMO reaver is better despite its lack of manuverability, due to its ability to seriously annoy any other vehisule/max/infantry it wants (except mag... see above

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Jagd · 2004-01-20, 06:48 PM

Ok first of all, this thread is 99% shit talkin, 1% fact/reality/useful.

Take the Reaver whenever you can, and use a Mosquito when you can't get a Reaver. The logic is simple; the Reaver has almost twice as much armor, and has more powerful and versatile weapons. Dogfights are won by pilotting skill and not by aircraft.

Having said that, you will find that it's quite rare to see a Liberator to take down Air Cavalry. Not that it's impossible, but more than any other type of air-to-air engagement, it comes down more to the lack of skill by the Mosq or Reaver pilot than to the sheer thickness of the Lib's armor or the Lib pilot's skill. Any air cavalry pilot who attacks a Liberator and then waits for it to turn around and bring its guns to bear, should have their pilot's license revoked.

dscytherulez · 2004-01-20, 07:13 PM

My opinion is Reaver > Mosq.

But it is basically all opinion and preference. You gotta use what your good with, not what other people are good with.

Queensidecastle · 2004-01-20, 08:09 PM

Any air cavalry pilot who attacks a Liberator and then waits for it to turn around and bring its guns to bear, should have their pilot's license revoked.

Thats just the thing. You cant stop a Lib from placing you in thier sights before you can beat through its armor and once the 35mm gets on you you might as well eject. A Lib pilot that knows how to Gunship will keep you turreted. This is because turn speed > strafe speed. All things equal, there just isnt anything you can do about it because its game mechanics. The Liberator has vastly superior weaponry. Pilot skills being equal the Liberator wins everytime

Jagd · 2004-01-21, 08:58 AM

You can't stop a Liberator from coming to bear if you are hovering motionless like an idiot, as I said more to do with your opponent's lack of skill than any other factor. I would love to have a go at it with you Queenside, because I am curious to see how well you really can dogfight with a Liberator.

Vick · 2004-01-21, 03:46 PM

Liberator is best against ground targets, and bad reavers. I have it certed, and it owns, but your wrong about the dogfight stuff.

I will fight you 1vs1 reaver versus liberator and I will win every time.

Queensidecastle · 2004-01-21, 05:31 PM

Explain exactly how you would do that? The 35mm tears up reavers in 8 seconds but it takes namy more than that for the Reaver 20mm to take out a Lib and just forget about rocketing a Lib. You cannot outstrafe a Liberator's turreting, so explain how you would do this. If I see you, your dead because the 35mm will blow you up before you can even attempt to get over my back. If you get the jump on me, the Lib can still maneuver in time to paint the 35mm on the reaver before it can be blown up

UncleDynamite · 2004-01-21, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by Queensidecastle

You cannot outstrafe a Liberator's turreting, so explain how you would do this.

Okay, apparently you either don't get the point or you don't know how to dogfight. Yes, you're right: I can't outstrafe a Liberator turreting. But who the hell hovers and strafes while dogfighting?! I mean, seriously, anyone who's flown a plane in PS knows that if you're facing a less nimble opponent, then take advantage of that and outmanuever him. I cannot recall a single time that a Liberator has destroyed me after months of hunting them. And if you decide to pull that "turreting" stuff while in a Liberator, then I'll just dive or pull a quick turn to get on to your 6 o'clock, and I'll just pelt you with 20mm bullets. If you move and turret so you can see me again, I'll just slip out of sight. Rinse and repeat until you explode or eject. Heck, if I have any, I'll just afterburn and get on to your 6 even faster. And as long as you hover and turret, I'll always know where you are. So if you do manage to outturret me, I'll just peel away, hide behind a ridge or something, get you confused to where I am, and then pop back out to blast you. Believe me, if you've managed to destroy air targets regularly with the Liberator, you've been extremely, extremely lucky.

Vick · 2004-01-21, 06:03 PM

Nice post UncleD.

To answer it in my own words: forwards down, tap AB, turn to face your 6, elevate untill I am above you.

Queensidecastle · 2004-01-21, 06:16 PM

Sounds like you guys have never been up against a good Lib pilot. I take out reavers and mosquitos with ease. I will be on tonight and will shoot you a tell Vick so we can go play.

EDIT: and oh yeah we arent even talking about when Libs are doing gunship with tailgunners. That is just complete ownage

Jagd · 2004-01-22, 12:04 PM

I will be out looking for you on Markov this afternoon, hope to get my skooling from ya.

Queensidecastle · 2004-01-22, 12:15 PM

I looked for Vick last night, didnt find him. Prolly easier to catch me on Emerald right now

Vick · 2004-01-22, 07:46 PM

My ingame name Vick-K, I am on for a while almost every night.