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Old 2004-02-09, 05:52 PM   [Ignore Me] #16
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There's really 2 separate instagib methods to the JH. You can do the quad shot, where you fire a primary followed by a secondary shot. Or, if you're close enough, one secondary shot will kill anyone if it hits. I think the instagib will still be around, but the time it takes to pull off will be reduced, thus making the JH user vulnerable to taking more damage.
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Old 2004-02-09, 05:56 PM   [Ignore Me] #17
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They are making a mode-switch timer between the single and tri. Good.

Now, are they making a timer for how soon you can fire a tri shot after a tri shot?

Edit: I really see only the tri shot being a problem though. The quad shot is rarely used when I am against a JH.
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Old 2004-02-09, 05:57 PM   [Ignore Me] #18
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Originally Posted by SilverLord
They are making a mode-switch timer between the single and tri. Good.

Now, are they making a timer for how soon you can fire a tri shot after a tri shot?
There is already a rather lengthy delay after firing a tri shot before you can fire either mode again.
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Old 2004-02-09, 06:50 PM   [Ignore Me] #19
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I don't use the JH and it needs a bit of a nerf.
but the spawn timer is essential to the game flow. if we could just instantly respawn there would be almost no consequenses to dieing
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Old 2004-02-09, 07:22 PM   [Ignore Me] #20
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Ohhh now I get what the proposal is. Uhhhh, no. Who's to say which weapons kill you cause a spawn delay or not? That's hardly a level of balance that needs to be added to the game. If there really is a balance problem with the JH (which there isn't), then the devs will find a way to take care of it w/o a major game altering event.
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Old 2004-02-09, 08:02 PM   [Ignore Me] #21
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The JH is not instagib. Instagib is 1 shot 1 kill.
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Old 2004-02-09, 08:17 PM   [Ignore Me] #22
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Dont get into semantics. 1 click = 1 shot, unless is a weapon that fires so fast that you cant control it, even then, such a weapon(MCG/Cycler) can still be controlled to an extent.


JH 2ndary mode = 1 click, dead enemy.
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Old 2004-02-09, 08:17 PM   [Ignore Me] #23
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Originally Posted by Acaila
Instagib is 1 shot 1 kill.
...which is what exactly happens when you shoot someone with the secondary mode of a JH at point blank range.

If the JH have one,

How come MCG don't "Blend & Spray" soldiers at point blank range?

How come Lasher don't "Tear & Fry" a soldier at point blank range?

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Old 2004-02-09, 08:29 PM   [Ignore Me] #24
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I find it unusual that the Jackhammer even has a secondary fire which can in some cases instantly kill even a guy in Reinforced. What, exactly, is the reasoning behind that? What makes the regular Jackhammer shots so much worse than the MCG or Lasher that it requires instant-kill capabilities? I've never understood the logic behind this.
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Old 2004-02-09, 08:55 PM   [Ignore Me] #25
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The NC are an instagib empire we could say.
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Old 2004-02-09, 08:59 PM   [Ignore Me] #26
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Originally Posted by SilverLord
The NC are an instagib empire we could say.


Wait. So. If you are shot with the empire you explode into many meaty giblets?
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Old 2004-02-09, 09:00 PM   [Ignore Me] #27
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Ugh...sorry for the troll post...I just hate the JH...I'm being immature. Sorry for that. No you don't explode but you explode when a JH tri shots you.
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Old 2004-02-09, 09:31 PM   [Ignore Me] #28
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It may be semantics, but that doesn't make you any less wrong. JH secondary fires 3 individual shots all of which have to be aimed each with their own firing time. It is 1 click 1 kill, but not instagib. A Vanguard shell is instagib, a JH secondary is not. Each shot has its own damage. If all 3 barrels unloaded at the same time it would be instagib, but they don't, they unload in rapid succession. You can hit the first shot and miss the last 2. 1 click 1 kill is not instagib. I can kill someone with 1 click from any weapon, I just have to hold the button down.
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Old 2004-02-09, 09:45 PM   [Ignore Me] #29
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Originally Posted by Acaila
I can kill someone with 1 click from any weapon, I just have to hold the button down.
Oh come on man, you know what we mean. Most of the time, a tri-shot is an instagib.
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Old 2004-02-09, 10:03 PM   [Ignore Me] #30
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OMG! I just noticed your name Silverlord. Ive been killed by you far too many times
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