Possible Cloaker buff

Incompetent · 2004-02-23, 07:30 PM

First off let me say this, I really do not like cloakers, in fact I virulently hate most of them. However I do recognize that the inventory they are given is unbelievably tiny, and incredibly hard to build an inventory around.

So here is my idea, roughly double the inventory space of the infiltration suit. HOWEVER, the more inventory space the infil uses, the more visible he is. Make it so that if the inventory is filled to the maximum size it is now (base it on the smallest boxes, which would is around 6x6 now I believe), the cloaker has almost exactly the same visibility. If the cloaker fills the entire thing is noticeably more visible, and if he keeps it mostly empty (say, just a REK and a Spiker) he is noticeably less visible. It would affect both normal and dl visibility, with a fully unloaded cloaker appearing as if he were at near maximum range and becoming undetectable at much shorter range.

This would do a couple things. Mainly, it would give cloakers much more freedom in laying out their inventory. I know that in rexo I HATE leaving any extra space open, so I can feel for the cloakers here. It would let them spread their inventory around and not waste an extra space (like the area around a grenade.) Second, it would let the sneaky ones to be a lot sneakier. Assuming that the item in the holster has no bearing on how visible the infiltrator is, a cloaker with just a REK and melee booster would be nearly impossible to find without DL (and a pain in the ass then even) and allow the sneaky bastards to be really sneaky. It would also allow more combat oriented cloakers who tend to stay with and support the infantry more leeway in loading out their inventory. They could load up and count on the grunts keeping the enemies attention while they move to flank with weapons like Spikers or Grenades.

Finally, and I�m debating whether this is really a good idea, allow cloakers AND ONLY CLOAKERS to purchase small armor upgrades, which are each the size of a regular ammo box, which add roughly 15 armor a piece. Not terribly impressive, but enough to give the cloakers at least some ability to absorb damage (and not get one hit killed by shotguns either.) Possibly have them incur a very slight speed decrease to represent the armor interfering with movement.

Questions, comments, flames?

Spee · 2004-02-23, 07:38 PM

Sounds good. The only thing I would add to it is a small bolded line to indicate the threshold of the previous "normal" inventory was, thus enabling people to make decisions based around how much they want to carry/how visible they want to be.

Incompetent · 2004-02-23, 07:41 PM

Possibly a slider somewhere (maybe on top of the inventory menu) that shows what your base visibility is? All the way right is as close to invisible as you can get, middle is the normal level it is now, hard left is extremely visible.

Gigabein · 2004-02-23, 07:49 PM

I like it. Customizability with checks and balances is always a good thing. A cloaker filling up this new inventory and running/gunning would light himself up like a christmas tree. Scale-able transparency would probably make the Melee Boost and Silent Run certs much more popular for all the crazy knifer types.

LimpBIT · 2004-02-23, 10:10 PM

Personally i think that all this crap that people are suggesting(not to say all of it is bad) is getting out of hand. Say the devs accept some of these, it would completely change the game may even ruin it. I think that some changes would be good. I would like to see more stuff and vehicles. Even more weapons. But that is a major change. I like cloakers the way they are and i think most ppl do to. I think this is more of a you only problem. No offense and sorry for the flam but that idea blows lol

Incompetent · 2004-02-23, 10:16 PM

http://planetside-universe.com/forum...ad.php?t=20007

Anyone whos not a hypocritical moron have any comments?

Edit: almost missed this gem
http://planetside-universe.com/forum...ad.php?t=19927

Gigabein · 2004-02-23, 10:19 PM

Care to explain how you drew your conclusion that it would "completely change the game may even ruin it"?

LimpBIT · 2004-02-24, 12:34 AM

well im not necessarily just talking about this idea its just all of these ideas ppl want to put into the game might change it a little to much. All im saying is that some of these changes could be good and some could be bad. My opinion ill stick to it. You have yours-you stick to yours. Im just saying that maybe PS development should be left to the PS developers.

LimpBIT · 2004-02-24, 12:37 AM

and another thing how was i being hypocrytical?
http://dictionary.reference.com/sear...q=hypocritical

Dharkbayne · 2004-02-24, 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by LimpBIT

I like cloakers the way they are and i think most ppl do to.

Hmm... Like them the way they are? How about YOU try killing a rexo with a repeater, how about YOU try getting by a spitfire/motion detector combo, how about YOU try getting into an interlink facility with a spitfire infront of every door. How about YOU try getting into a tower when everyone in the whole damn game has DL and flicks it on and off constantly. Eh? HOW ABOUT IT? Cloakers need a buff, you moron.

Incompetent · 2004-02-24, 12:45 AM

Personally i think that all this crap that people are suggesting(not to say all of it is bad) is getting out of hand.

I was thinking maybe putting in a cert section that has special abilitys like digging treches making mines go underground or anything you guys can think of. Some stuff that would increase the gameplay and make it easier on attackers and defenders. AND BRING BACK THE FLAMETHROWER.(sadly the flame thrower didnt make it to the final game if you didnt know that). I think that would be fun.

hy�poc�ri�sy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (h-pkr-s)
n. pl. hy�poc�ri�sies
The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.

I.E. you telling everyone to stop posting stupid ideas then posting your own, surely you don't need me to spell out the association between the words hypocrisy and hypocritical.

Jaged · 2004-02-24, 02:05 AM

Originally Posted by LimpBIT

Personally i think that all this crap that people are suggesting(not to say all of it is bad) is getting out of hand. Say the devs accept some of these, it would completely change the game may even ruin it. I think that some changes would be good. I would like to see more stuff and vehicles. Even more weapons. But that is a major change. I like cloakers the way they are and i think most ppl do to. I think this is more of a you only problem. No offense and sorry for the flam but that idea blows lol

quiet Kevin

TheN00b · 2004-02-24, 07:01 PM

Kevin?

Jaged · 2004-02-24, 08:25 PM

Thats limpbit's name. He's my friend from school.

EarlyDawn · 2004-02-24, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by LimpBIT

well im not necessarily just talking about this idea its just all of these ideas ppl want to put into the game might change it a little to much. All im saying is that some of these changes could be good and some could be bad. My opinion ill stick to it. You have yours-you stick to yours. Im just saying that maybe PS development should be left to the PS developers.

So stop making suggestions.