Short Essay: Why do you think the French suck - Page 2

Bighoss · 2003-01-25, 02:24 AM

Originally posted by Flashingfish
Hmm. Let me see, here's a good one. You're all racists and you like to follow each other's trend because you think it makes you look big!

That might be true and were all horrible racists but the french don't count cuz there more of a parasite.

Has anyone noticed that a race has to have something bad happen to them and then the slightest joke gets people really really pissed. If you say God damn French it won't have the same effect that might happen to uuuuhhhh I don't wanna make an example I'll just get flamed

Zanzibar · 2003-01-25, 06:20 AM

lol the french deserve all they get for folding n WWII n making the british americans and canadiens pull their arses out of their (surprise surprise america you didnt do it on your own)

Squeeky · 2003-01-25, 06:45 AM

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A. Because everytime they went off the french tried to surrender

Navaron · 2003-01-25, 08:43 AM

Newsflash, racism is when you judge someone by their skin color. The French have people of all races in their country. I am talking about the Country of France. Why do they suck? That's not racism, it's countrycism.

Flashingfish · 2003-01-25, 09:54 AM

Racism is not juding by skin colour, it's judging by race. And the French are a race of people. So making fun of them is racism. Clever no?

Navaron · 2003-01-25, 10:19 AM

So if I'm an American, that means I'm of the American Race? So if a black guy from Togo, is born in america, he is no longer a black male, but American? That's news to me.

Hamma · 2003-01-25, 12:40 PM

Enough country bashing. World peace!

Bighoss · 2003-01-25, 12:46 PM

CARPET BOMB EVERYONE

Navaron · 2003-01-25, 12:48 PM

I would like to nominate Hamma for Miss Congeniality 2003. World peace...jeez.

Lexington_Steele · 2003-01-25, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by {BOHICA}Navaron
So if I'm an American, that means I'm of the American Race? So if a black guy from Togo, is born in america, he is no longer a black male, but American? That's news to me.

Not that I mind a quality french ribbing, but Flashing is right about his use of the word race.

*A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics.

*A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race.

Now it is tough to call Americans a race at this point in history (except native americans). Being so melting potish, we don't carry distinguishable physical traits, nor is our history together very long. The french on the other hand do have ditinguishable physical traits (like gigantic noses) and a common history going back to medieval times.

Navaron · 2003-01-25, 03:09 PM

I disagree, that classifying people with in a certain imaginary line is considered racism. If that's the case, what about the Austrians? What are the people that live in Chechnya? Russian? I think they'd differ. They aren't a different race. Race is based on biology, no geographic location.

I look at races as, anglo, afro, asian, indian. Not North Dakota, South Dakota. Are Canadians and Americans a different race (For the most part)? No. But are Americans and Mexicans (For the most part) a different race. Yes.

I'll take either though, people living with the boundary of France, or this race the "French".

Lexington_Steele · 2003-01-25, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by {BOHICA}Navaron
Race is based on biology, no geographic location.

You have yourself there. The french share a a common biological heritage. Besides native americans, there have not been the same families living in south Dakota for over 1000 years, the way that the same french families have been living in france for the last 1000 years.

BTW, how can you disagree with a definition that is cut and pasted from a dictionary?

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=race

Navaron · 2003-01-25, 03:36 PM

"The french share a a common biological heritage"

My point is that their biological heritage is mostly the same as all other european anglo races. So there's the anglo race. Sure it breaks down more than that, but then where do you stop? If you hate people with the last name Johnson are you racist? If you hate one family of Johnsons are you a racist?

About the dictionary thing, I checked websters, and it has nothing like that, which would solve the arguement. I checked before I posted. It's definition of French however, is "the people of France". Look up anglo. It fits my definitions perfectly.

My point is that Geographic boundries change arbitrarily, however, the people within those boundries do not.

Lexington_Steele · 2003-01-25, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by {BOHICA}Navaron
My point is that Geographic boundries change arbitrarily, however, the people within those boundries do not.

This is a biological thing, not a boundary thing.

Can you tell the difference between a Spaniard and a frenchman? How about an Italian and a frenchman. How about an Irishman and a frenchman. Is it becuase of the borders they keep or is it because of inherant physical traits?

Suppose these 4 guys all move to america. Does the Spaniard cease to look like a Spaniard? Does the Irishman cease to look like an Irishman? Does the Italian cese to look Italien. Does the frenchman cease to like Jerry Lewis

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Navaron · 2003-01-25, 04:14 PM

"This is a biological thing, not a boundary thing."

I assume you're talking about Racism, if so, EXACTLY. That is what I am saying. If I were to mock blacks, for being black, then that would be racist. To mock a country, which is determined by its boundries, is not racist.

About your Spainyard, English, Irish thing: At face value you could, however you wouldn't be able to tell where they resided. You *would* be able to see their genetic history.

I think where we differ is that when I say french, I mean the country of france, so in my mind a Frenchman is someone from france - he could be asian for all I care. You see "the French", as a whole, as a race. I can understand that, but that wasn't where I was going.

But yeah, you can group regions by the charecteristics of the people that live there, but I doubt that those charecteristics are restricted to their respective borders.

It's kinda like all squares are shapes, but not a shapes are squares.