Phantasam is an AirCav Vech - Page 2

Keebler · 2004-05-31, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by EarlyDawn

A cloaking air del is cool, but I'd prefer a blackhawk style VTOL that could hold five, plus two chaingunners, and everyone could fire rifle sized weapons out of the main compartment, and be hit independently of the vehicle.

Like the transport Huey in Battlefield: Vietnam. Not a cloaking air del.

You know how ineffective the ablitity to use rifles on the huey on BFV is? Between leading your target, you also have to anticipate where your own pilot is going. PS weaponry, even the MA weaponry, is geared more toward close to medium range encounters. The only thing I can see being usefull for the gunner seats there would be SA.

EarlyDawn · 2004-05-31, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Lartnev

The ability to fire out from the vehicle is probably not going to happen for a while, if ever.

As for chainguns, well I guess this is going to perhaps be for spec ops incursions as opposed to just being a smaller galaxy, and sounds pretty cool if you ask me. Nothing to stop an armed variant making an appearance later.

Smokejumper said they were looking into it a few ask the devs ago.

Originally Posted by Keebler

You know how ineffective the ablitity to use rifles on the huey on BFV is? Between leading your target, you also have to anticipate where your own pilot is going. PS weaponry, even the MA weaponry, is geared more toward close to medium range encounters. The only thing I can see being usefull for the gunner seats there would be SA.

That's why you use it as a stationary weapons platform. Hover over a base, light up any targets, and when you start taking fire back, bug out. If you're firing mid flight at any signifigant altitude, you're bound to have minimal accuracy. Get low and use a fast-firing weapon like a cycler.

Lartnev · 2004-05-31, 08:28 PM

Smokejumper said they were looking into it a few ask the devs ago.

You know as well as I do that looking into, and actually doing are two very different things. It'd take some doing, I mean first you gotta get the people to ride with the vehicle by attaching it to the sides of the vehicle. Then you have to allow them to pivot in position so that they can aim and fire their weapons. I'm not saying it's impossible, I mean people can move inside the harasser for example depending on which direction the gun is facing, just saying that it'll take a lot of effort to get right.

EarlyDawn · 2004-05-31, 08:51 PM

And it's my opinion that the effort applied to making it possible would be a far better troop transport and variable loadout weapons platform.

Seer · 2004-06-01, 02:12 AM

Why do you care what it looks like. It's invisible!

Electrofreak · 2004-06-01, 04:25 AM

Originally Posted by AltaEgo

Yeah well it makes sense too aswell. We dont want 100 ugly bastard machines flying round the server now, do we?

Lodestars you mean?

Lartnev · 2004-06-01, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by Electrofreak

Lodestars you mean?

Rbstr · 2004-06-01, 09:33 AM

Well The AirDell, doesn't have to be able to fire your of the sides, it just needs to be able to act as a gunship and defend its self.

I think to side gunners with full 180 degree rotation and one tailgunner like the lib would be perfect

Lartnev · 2004-06-01, 11:04 AM

Well its protection is the cloak. Like I said, I'm sure it'd be possible to add armed variants once it's released. Although a topside and an underbelly gunner would probably be even better

Onizuka-GTO · 2004-06-01, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by Seer

Why do you care what it looks like. It's invisible!

Keebler · 2004-06-01, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by EarlyDawn

Smokejumper said they were looking into it a few ask the devs ago.

That's why you use it as a stationary weapons platform. Hover over a base, light up any targets, and when you start taking fire back, bug out. If you're firing mid flight at any signifigant altitude, you're bound to have minimal accuracy. Get low and use a fast-firing weapon like a cycler.

Thats suicide. Wait, on second thought, I agree. Put it in, with a buncha CDL (including you, early

) over an NC base with that thing. Either A) someone will man a turret (for once) and shoot you down because you dont have the weaponry on hand to take it out B) A few PXs/AA Maxes will come shoot you down or C) You actually kill a few people before people wise up and take out A and B.

EarlyDawn · 2004-06-01, 03:44 PM

I'm sorry, I keep forgetting you're a newb. Countermeasures will be in the game relatively soon, long before any such vehicle would be introduced. We're far too smart to deploy one over a base that still has functional wall turrets. And hey, if you want to feed MAXes to anybody onboard manning the chainguns or weilding a decimator, feel free. It's only XP for me.

Keep trying to show me up Keebler, it's nonsensical and amusing.

Keebler · 2004-06-01, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by EarlyDawn

I'm sorry, I keep forgetting you're a newb. Countermeasures will be in the game relatively soon, long before any such vehicle would be introduced. We're far too smart to deploy one over a base that still has functional wall turrets. And hey, if you want to feed MAXes to anybody onboard manning the chainguns or weilding a decimator, feel free. It's only XP for me.

Keep trying to show me up Keebler, it's nonsensical and amusing.

Your one good shot if you can deci a moving AA max from a slow moving/hovering vehicle at any kind of range, but I forgot, [sarcasm] I am just a newb who cant be right. how dare I oppose earlydawn [/sarcasm]

Ignore Me · 2004-06-01, 04:40 PM

Did I miss something? what's the Phantasam?

Wraithlord · 2004-06-01, 06:12 PM

toneball go look at the in concept part of the official forums, or just look on the main news at planetside-universe.com, scroll down a bit, its there