IPod's

[Corrosion]

Originally Posted by Ivan

OMG! 2 whole minutes!

I still dont know how to actually record, I just got to some menu and then got lost in its crappy interface.

[EineBeBoP]

Originally Posted by Corrosion

iRiver is not nice, it took me a good 2 minutes to figure out how to record.
and the iPod looks LOADS better than the iRiver.
iPod is older too.

God damn it, Eine, think before posting adjectives.

who gives a shit about looks? i SAID it was more humble.


wow! 2 minutes?!
It does have a learning curve, but anyone who can operati a (windows) computer, can figure this thing out, and be better off for doing so.

hooray for ipod? shall we throw it a birthday party?

[EineBeBoP]

Originally Posted by Corrosion

7 bucks in not a difference.

no, but it destroys your argument of how the iriver is more expensive


grawr damn spam filter



http://planetside-universe.com/forum...searchid=52332


Read the "ipod vs digi cam thread", and the "heavy's ipod review"

[Corrosion]

Also, when browsing throu music, the songs show up as file names, so if you're going to have to look for a specific song, you'll have to wait a couple seconds for it to scroll the name if the file name is like so: Artist - Song.mp3

Ipod: Automaticly sorts by albums, artists, genres, composers, etc.

[EineBeBoP]

Not always, and theres software that fixes that. (not itunes)
I prefer my sorting, as I can put stuff where I can find it fastest.

[AztecWarrior]

Buy a violin.

[Derfud]

With a simple right click and a left click, the iRiver will too. Personally I like to have my songs stored in folders, a la "my music", makes me think of how similair it is to a PC. Listening the HDD boot up when you turn it on is also awesome :P

[Corrosion]

I still think iPod is better, yes iRiver has a few features that the iPod doesn't, but you really don't use them.

What matters to me is interface, every iRiver owner should admit that the iPod's interface is LOADS better.

[EineBeBoP]

that is one slight fault. the iriver scans the HD when booting up. takes 5-10 seconds at most. but yeah, it does sound damn cool

Originally Posted by Corrosion

I still think iPod is better, yes iRiver has a few features that the iPod doesn't, but you really don't use them.

What matters to me is interface, every iRiver owner should admit that the iPod's interface is LOADS better.

I use the radio every damn day. I record lectures in class, and get incriminating evidence on friends I record music off other players (cd, HD, analogue) every so often

the ipod's interface is EASIER, but not better. i can get to any feature in 2 seconds (seriously, buttons have 2 features depending on if you click or hold, and the joystick had 3, for R/L/U/D, click, and hold.) with a little practice, I can find anything i want as fast as, if not faster, than your average ipod user.

[Infernus]

heh I happen to like my iRiver... just keep it away from water... it does not like water, as the name would suggest...

[EineBeBoP]

Originally Posted by EineBeBoP

http://iriveramerica.com/products/H120.aspx
Thats the one I got
Features:
Plays over 600 hours of digital music
Up to 16 hours of battery life
Supports MP3, WMA, ASF, WAV and OGG music files
Ultra-fast USB 2.0 transfers (up to 40 times faster than USB 1.0)
Integrated FM tuner
Backlit remote control with 4-line display
Built-in voice recorder
Intuitive music navigation
Real-time MP3 encoding (no PC required)
20GB of internal storage
Store or transfer files of any type
Extra-large, 8-line, backlit LCD
Rechargeable Lithium Polymer battery
Optical input and output
Upgradeable to future formats and features

So, built in mic (for recording notes / recording lectures in class {ive done this before})
built in FM tuner (BIG deal for me)
plays OGG files
backlit remote thats shows song info comes with the iriver free
dosent need firewire
can be plugged into any Win PC, and (tho im not 100% sure) macs as well (dont need 2 versions)
upgradeable (not hardware, but software.)
can record optical in
4 more hours battery life

comes with a buncha shit

Backlit remote control with 4-line display
iRiver earphones
Carrying case
Installation software CD
AC adapter
USB 2.0 cable
Line-in cable
External microphone
Printed user manual



While it certainly isn't as pretty as an iPod, it easily dwarfs it in features.
I like to call the iPod "iRiver's slutty little sister that everyone wants to get with"


Im certainly not saying that the iPod is bad. Not at all. its a great product (tho put out by a horrible company). I jsut think that the iRiver is a BETTER product and you should at least consider it.

Posted at an earlier date along with:

Originally Posted by EineBeBoP

I've played with corrs plenty, thanks. Ill take my iriver any day.

how it looks just isnt that important to me.

add ons cost money. and you cant buy a "pack" of them, so its prolly around $20 each (just a guess, based on nothing) item.


Real time encoding, and input/output means that you can hook up a friends music device, and record straight to the HD. I've copied a song I liked off a friends CD player before that way. iriver comes in 40gb too. The lights on the displays themselves are pretty much equal (tho i often find myself blinded by the iriver light late at night) I prefer the actual information shown on the display better however. We all know what the ipod battery has been accused of (ipodsdirtylittlesecret.com or whatever), and so far the iriver has had no problems like that (of corse it hasnt been out as long, but still...)

iriver needs that program (itunes?) to transfer files back and forth. the iriver is basicly an external HD when its plugged in. I ALWAYS use it to back up files when I format.
its as simple as plug in - drag and drop - unplug - format - plug in - drag and drop again, and im done. the ipod would need drivers from itunes if Im correct.

ipod does upgrade its software, but theyd rather you bought the "next generation" ipod, instead of putting these updates out every few months.


Another thing, Corr's ipod broke a LONG TIME AGO. At least 2 months. (it was at the end of school corr, remember how you could listen to K&B with me at PE once you borrowed my cd player?) He sent it to Apple to have it repaired, and still hasnt gotten it back. What kind of company makes you wait Months for a repair?


another thing Jag, have YOU ever tryed an iriver? take your own advice and borrow one. just trying it for 5 min, youll get lost and confused. the iriver is a bit more complicated, but makes up for it with what you can do. took me about a day and a half to really learn how to use it.

The iriver certainly isnt for everyone. But i think that anyone here with half a brain will keep an open mind when looking for a mp3 player. Especially when your (or someone else) is going to spend $300 on this thing.

[Corrosion]

Originally Posted by EineBeBoP

that is one slight fault. the iriver scans the HD when booting up. takes 5-10 seconds at most. but yeah, it does sound damn cool



I use the radio every damn day. I record lectures in class, and get incriminating evidence on friends I record music off other players (cd, HD, analogue) every so often

the ipod's interface is EASIER, but not better. i can get to any feature in 2 seconds (seriously, buttons have 2 features depending on if you click or hold, and the joystick had 3, for R/L/U/D, click, and hold.) with a little practice, I can find anything i want as fast as, if not faster, than your average ipod user.

Radio, fine.

But as far as I know, you never commonly use the other features. If I want, I could by a ipod mic for 5-10 bucks.

[AztecWarrior]

There are no iPods or iRivers in Soviet Russia.

[EineBeBoP]

Believe it or not, I do sue it when your not around

I record notes becasue im lazy

the iriver remote is a lot nicer than the ipods. you can do ANYTHING on the remote, than you can do on the main device. ipods remote is a mere volume up/dwn, next track, play/pause, stop. dosent even show the song info.

iRiver comes standard with:

Backlit remote control with 4-line display (see above)
iRiver earphones (nice, but I suggest your own)
Carrying case (very nice, protects the iriver, and hides it if you think its ugly )
Installation software CD (not even needed. I never used it. plug and play for the win.)
AC adapter (ipod dosent include this, you have to buy seperately or use firewire all the time [not good fro traveling])
USB 2.0 cable (dosent require firewire ports, but can use them [sold seperately])
Line-in cable (cool for recording music off other players (radio, cd, other hard drives, your comps speakers. etc.)
External microphone (cool for recording stuff at higher quality than the internal mic. gets rid of the sound of the hard drive you can *occasionally* hear when using the internal.)
Printed user manual ( very helpful, required reading to really learn how to operate at full capacity.)

[Corrosion]

The ipod comes with a AC adapter, if it didn't, I would slap Steve Jobs upside the head.