I Just had the scare of a lifetime. - Page 2

Pilgrim · 2004-11-23, 11:18 AM

They wouldn't put you on Prozac for Bipolar so you must have had depression. Most Bipolar people are given small dosage lithium.

And yes, a chemical imballance needs to be addressed with Medication, but wihtout talking therapy it is much less effective. Start with the talking therapy, if the Psycologist thinks there is even a smidgen of a chance there is an imballance then they'll send her to a psychiatrist. But Talking therapy is always where you start.

Remember there are high incidents of people who get on Anti-D's killing themselves. The reason for this is when you are really Depressed (as anyone who's actually suffered from Depression can tell you) You really can't do much of anything, and killing yourself takes alot of work. The Anti-D's give you enough energy and drive to actualy put out the effort required to do the deed. That's why it MUST be coupled with talking therapy. Some outlet, to get her to a point where she doesn't want to kill herself while the medication (if needed) helps her.

I swear I know what I'm talkig about! I sleep with a woman who does this work everyday!

Sputty · 2004-11-23, 11:40 AM

Random trivia as I don't know what else to say:
Males most common method of suicide is a gun
Females most common method is overdosing on pills

Fragmatic · 2004-11-23, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by Pilgrim

They wouldn't put you on Prozac for Bipolar so you must have had depression. Most Bipolar people are given small dosage lithium.

And yes, a chemical imballance needs to be addressed with Medication, but wihtout talking therapy it is much less effective. Start with the talking therapy, if the Psycologist thinks there is even a smidgen of a chance there is an imballance then they'll send her to a psychiatrist. But Talking therapy is always where you start.

Remember there are high incidents of people who get on Anti-D's killing themselves. The reason for this is when you are really Depressed (as anyone who's actually suffered from Depression can tell you) You really can't do much of anything, and killing yourself takes alot of work. The Anti-D's give you enough energy and drive to actualy put out the effort required to do the deed. That's why it MUST be coupled with talking therapy. Some outlet, to get her to a point where she doesn't want to kill herself while the medication (if needed) helps her.

I swear I know what I'm talkig about! I sleep with a woman who does this work everyday!

They put me on prozac.
I was with a counsellor at the time as well, I ended up skipping it all.

Mag-Mower · 2004-11-23, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by Triggar

Good luck, Jet. Get her to a psychiatrist.

i second that

firecrackerNC · 2004-11-23, 01:53 PM

We got my one friend messed up big time, hes small compared to us, hes like 5'6 or something and his parents always shelter him from wel everything. So at a party we got him messed up with liquids and other substances and he drank so much we thought he had alcohol poisioning or something. He couldnt stop passing out while throwing up, hed be throwing up and pass out while still doing it. Then we thought for sure he had stopped breathing for awhile. That was the scariest moment Ive had.

Infernus · 2004-11-23, 02:46 PM

Situations like this always suck dude, hope she gets better... She's lucky to have a friend like you though. If it she had really done it, you responded quick enough to get her help. Its a hard thing when a friend tries something like this... I know from experience, she'll need you over the next few weeks, keep an eye on her to the best of your ability.

Be there for her, support her and she'll pull through, she got a good friend. Good Luck.

JetRaiden · 2004-11-23, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Triggar

That's true for a lot of things, but if she's got a biological disorder that causes her to be depressed - i.e. manic depression, bipolar disorder, et cetera, she can talk until she's blue in the face but it won't do a thing.

She doesnt really have any biological disorders like bipolar and stuff. She just has had an extremely tough life.

oddfish · 2004-11-23, 10:07 PM

suicide: permanent solution to a temporary problem.

my junior year in high school i was feeling the whole suicidal tendencies thing because i was a raging alcoholic and i thought i wasn't worth shit. then my friend Erika purposely OD'd on heroine one night and called me over saying i was the last person she wanted to see before she left. She lied to me on the phone and said that she was going to Florida with her sister to waitress for her Uncle who owned a bar. i went, and when i got there she wasn't anywhere in the house so i went upstairs and went in the bathroom and there was water all over the floor and she was laying on the tile bathroom floor naked in a pool of water and blood and vomit. I called 911 and every other god damned number i could call on my cell phone, on the house phone... after that i pretty much figured that i had no fucking business thinking about killing myself. she'd had a serious drug problem for a looooong time but i thought i had helped her kick the fucking thing. apparently not. she was really beautiful, too. sometimes you just have to try and find the good shit in your life instead of dwelling on all the bad shit. we'd talked about being together for a long time but never followed through with anything. i wish that i'd been with her at the time i think i could have prevented that whole night. i didn't go to her funeral. i couldn't. i havn't been to a funeral since my junior year. it was Erika's birthday three days ago. damn. it's been a while since that happened. .... what a waste.

Fragmatic · 2004-11-23, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by oddfish

suicide: permanent solution to a temporary problem.

my junior year in high school i was feeling the whole suicidal tendencies thing because i was a raging alcoholic and i thought i wasn't worth shit. then my friend Erika purposely OD'd on heroine one night and called me over saying i was the last person she wanted to see before she left. She lied to me on the phone and said that she was going to Florida with her sister to waitress for her Uncle who owned a bar. i went, and when i got there she wasn't anywhere in the house so i went upstairs and went in the bathroom and there was water all over the floor and she was laying on the tile bathroom floor naked in a pool of water and blood and vomit. I called 911 and every other god damned number i could call on my cell phone, on the house phone... after that i pretty much figured that i had no fucking business thinking about killing myself. she'd had a serious drug problem for a looooong time but i thought i had helped her kick the fucking thing. apparently not. she was really beautiful, too. sometimes you just have to try and find the good shit in your life instead of dwelling on all the bad shit. we'd talked about being together for a long time but never followed through with anything. i wish that i'd been with her at the time i think i could have prevented that whole night. i didn't go to her funeral. i couldn't. i havn't been to a funeral since my junior year. it was Erika's birthday three days ago. damn. it's been a while since that happened. .... what a waste.

Ouch, that makes me sad

to you, it's a shame when people go.

oddfish · 2004-11-23, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by Fragmatic

Ouch, that makes me sad

to you, it's a shame when people go.

shame isn't the word...

Fragmatic · 2004-11-23, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by oddfish

shame isn't the word...

I know how hard it is to help during ordeals like that though, it can really break a guy.

JetRaiden · 2004-11-23, 11:04 PM

I really have to do something about this. I'm planning on going to boston on friday but sometimes I think it can't wait that long. There's only so much I can do over the phone. I don't want to tell my parents whats going on. I just don't know what to do. I keep telling her "dont give up, things will get better, etc" but Im not sure if its really helping that much. I care about her so fucking much, she's one of the best friends Ive had in months. I dont know what I would do if I lost her.

Fragmatic · 2004-11-23, 11:10 PM

well if you do get the chance to see her, show her a good time.

Not saying to make it romantic or anyhting, but just goto a park, chill out for a while, talk,relax, etc. Sometimes people need a break, and even simple things like that help alot

oddfish · 2004-11-23, 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by Fragmatic

well if you do get the chance to see her, show her a good time.

Not saying to make it romantic or anyhting, but just goto a park, chill out for a while, talk,relax, etc. Sometimes people need a break, and even simple things like that help alot

that's the truest thing ever. just take her out and have a good time together. go see a movie or go somewhere to eat some really good food. a really good meal is always a great way to remind someone of how good things are. it's weird.

Fragmatic · 2004-11-23, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by oddfish

that's the truest thing ever. just take her out and have a good time together. go see a movie or go somewhere to eat some really good food. a really good meal is always a great way to remind someone of how good things are. it's weird.

The simplist pleasures are always the best.