Today: a blind date which will live in infamy

[JetRaiden]

Originally Posted by Triggar

Then why say anything at all? If you had to comment, do it in a PM. None of us want to lock threads or ban people for flaming, so don't spam or flame.

Back on topic: Aztec, where online did your friend meet these people?

gen[M]ay

[Triggar]

[M] has goths??! OMGWTFBBQLOLROFLTTYL!!!!!!

[Hezzy]

Tell me their Usernames. I want to take the piss out of them.

[Fehronozova]

Originally Posted by JetRaiden

I do too. thank god for freetranslations. now I can create the illusion that I'm well read and have a diverse cultural background.

Mmm, you do that.

[Majik]

Well Aztec, I would like to congratulate you for your mastery of bigotry and stereotyping. Pentagrams do not make you satanic, anymore than crosses make you the pope. Many of my closest friends are inked/pierced or have shopped at "goth" stores.
Frankly, I would rather hang out with someone who shops at hot topic, then someone who just lets some child molester with a white collar and an alter (see I can do it too) tell them what to believe and makes them incapable or unwilling to think for themselves.

[Everay]

Originally Posted by Majik

Well Aztec, I would like to congratulate you for your mastery of bigotry and stereotyping. Pentagrams do not make you satanic, anymore than crosses make you the pope. Many of my closest friends are inked/pierced or have shopped at "goth" stores.
Frankly, I would rather hang out with someone who shops at hot topic, then someone who just lets some child molester with a white collar and an alter (see I can do it too) tell them what to believe and makes them incapable or unwilling to think for themselves.

wow, way to attempt to proove a point badly.

[Sputty]

Originally Posted by Fehronozova

It was never malevolent. Only Christianity made it so.

And only the Allies made the swastika out to be an evil symbol

[BUGGER]

Originally Posted by Triggar

I think up to a certain age, stereotypes and wanna-be stereotypes are "acceptable" - I say the certain age is, let's say 20 for the sake of argument.

Think about it. When you're a teenager, everyone fits into one cliche or another. Everyone, you know it's the truth. Then you go off to college and meet other cliche's and form new ones until you keep finding out that you do actually have a personality of your own that isn't what MTV told you to be like, and you like music and foods and places that your friend's don't.

One day, you'll learn what's important to you, you'll learn that trying to be "different" just makes you look like eight million other people only dumber, you'll learn that it's a waste of time living according to a stereotype.

Afterall, I used to wear skater jeans my sophomore year of high school

^Speaks the truth, including the jeans^


Aztec, if you aren't like them then what are you? Find a place and stay there, like it or not you will get use to it.

[AztecWarrior]

Originally Posted by Majik

Well Aztec, I would like to congratulate you for your mastery of bigotry and stereotyping. Pentagrams do not make you satanic, anymore than crosses make you the pope. Many of my closest friends are inked/pierced or have shopped at "goth" stores.
Frankly, I would rather hang out with someone who shops at hot topic, then someone who just lets some child molester with a white collar and an alter (see I can do it too) tell them what to believe and makes them incapable or unwilling to think for themselves.

1. From the sounds of things, you really like Christians- do you want to hang out with ultrareligous people?

I reserve the right to hang out with who I want to. Mindless teens who shop at HT just don't hit the right nerves. The pentagram only added on to the effect, my friends had the same reaction without seeing it.

2. I knew this post would also inflame some of you semi-gothy types that lurk here. So I put the warning up there. Great reading, Helen Keller. But, I assume you charged in anyway, which I am guilty of in the past.

If you got the general message, which you missed, you just read the first few sentences, saw the quote about me complaining about the pentagram, and jumped to conclusions: it's that I met a bunch of people that I personally didn't like. If you wantto bang them just by hearing about them, fine by me. I am just posting my reaction and the humorous actions that were undertaken to get away from them.

3. What was that about white collars and child molesters? What was that about being a master of bigotry and stereotyping?

[DeepStrikeck]

What was that with combining Catholics and Protestants? I don't generalize goths so don't generalize Christians. (Us Protestans believe in letting our pastors marry.)

[AztecWarrior]

Originally Posted by DeepStrikeck

What was that with combining Catholism and Protestants? I don't generalize goths so don't generalize Christians.

This has nothing to do with anything.

[Lonehunter]

Originally Posted by AztecWarrior

Cliff Notes Version, for the people in PSU that are special: Al Gore invented the internet, do you really trust him for dating?

Goths need not read this post.

The full version:

First of all, I like to think I am an ordinary, meat-and-potatoes gamer kid. I don't wear gothy clothes, don't wear message shirts, I like Jesus, conservative, 16 years old, etc.

Another friend, an Italian/Cuban who has lost all vestiges of heritage and is really white (literally, he's pale from nonexposure to the sun) who goes by Dark Valor on the internet, is the same, minus Jesus. We're pretty similar, except he wears more black. And he owes me $3.25.

My third friend, a Brazilian-born, Germanic-heritage Brazilian/German nationalist kid who listens to stuff like Godsmack, i.e. modern alt rock, or nu rock, or whatever you call it, is also pretty much the same.

We're all gamers.

The third guy, whom we shall call PJ, had the most excellent idea of having us go to the mall at Sunset Place: Gameworks, and then see a movie. With "some chicks he met online." That's all he really knew except that one was "busted". The movie we were going to see, Finding Neverland, is horrible, and Dark Valor simply planned to skip it.

So, we did this today, Saturday.

Gameworks, for people like Rbstr who live in the cornbelt and don't know this, is similar to places like Dave and Buster's, or pretty much massive arcades with a bar, pool hall, etc. We go there, have some fun playing Time Crisis and the game with the riot shield + submachinegun, until we exhaust our funds. We buy some Cokes (for you picky types, it was Coca-Cola. I don't cal soda "Coke".), and soon it comes the time to meet the girls.

Children, the internet isn't WYSIWIG.

They weren't 40 year old rapists or anything, they can best be described as goths that weren't wearing chains, capes, black clothes, and body piercings that day. Or goths that hadn't bought into the consumerist, Hot Topic-speared culture yet. We met them in Virgin Records reading a Playboy book on how to be a bad girl.

It was probably the most incompatible thing short of matching a *** with a Nazi.

There were three of them and one brought their boyfriend- thanks for the heads-up, Weeping Raven. One had a maroon blouse with a pentagram neckalce over it (immediately sounding the WARNING: This Person Is Evil alarm in my head), the other wore a T-shirt with Elmo on it, the kind of satirical T you find at Hot Topic, and the other had ...fuck, I don't remember. The boyfriend had a black sweater and jeans- completely out of climate, but he just had to look gothy and moody. There is no winter in Miami. Ever. In the fall, a shirt and jeans is stretching it.

It became immediately apparent to me on first sight that these people did not intend to see Finding Neverland, a movie about a guy who makes the play called Peter Pan.

Of course, the first place they went to was Hot Topic. At no point in time did they try to talk with us, or vice-versa: we believe that Hot Topic is a shithole that deserves to be burned down, with its $7 shoelaces, "look-at-me-I'm-wearing-almost-as-much-metal-on-my-jeans-as-in-my-piercings" black baggy pants, or Che Guevara T-shirts. Two of them were completely wild and looked about everything in the time it takes for you to read this sentence. We pretended to be amused- there were a few shirts that were funny. There was one from Office Space, another that says "I *glove* MJ", and one making a reference to Compton. But that's IT.

At that point, Valor was considering making a break for it.

The group sepearated shortly after, as the two girls with AD/HD ran amok, looking for clothing stores. We followed them. Eventually, they came to the 2nd floor and we passed by a pretzel place. Valor got a pretzel. I had a crazy idea.

"Do you see them?" I asked, humorously, while also giving that invisible nudge that I was using it as an excuse to get the fuck out of there.

They had actually lost us.

"Uhh...no." They agreed.

So we went into AMC Theatres and watched Saw, which was an OK movie. Alone.

Basically, I will never trust PJ again to set up any possible outings involving members of the opposite sex.

Now, I've probably inadequately described the incident and you are thinking "BLOLOLOLOL U SUCK AT LYFE." I will restate this again: they embrace goth culture but don't yet dress like it, though they clearly want to. I also forgot to tell you that they were looking at the tatoo kiosk.

This trendy crap, I hate it. If you buy into a mindless culture that tells you what is cool, I have no respect for you at all.

Valor put it best: "There are 90% of chicks who are bad: rap, pop, or goth. There are the 10% who aren't. We are supposed to find that 10%."

All I have to say is,

You didn't think Saw was awesome? damn...


Edit: but on the topic of Stereotyping, my Dad has several Tattoos, rides a Harley, has a goatee, and drives a 69 Corvette. You'd never guess what he does for a living.

[ObnoxiousFrog]

Originally Posted by AztecWarrior

1. From the sounds of things, you really like Christians- do you want to hang out with ultrareligous people?

I reserve the right to hang out with who I want to. Mindless teens who shop at HT just don't hit the right nerves. The pentagram only added on to the effect, my friends had the same reaction without seeing it.

2. I knew this post would also inflame some of you semi-gothy types that lurk here. So I put the warning up there. Great reading, Helen Keller. But, I assume you charged in anyway, which I am guilty of in the past.

If you got the general message, which you missed, you just read the first few sentences, saw the quote about me complaining about the pentagram, and jumped to conclusions: it's that I met a bunch of people that I personally didn't like. If you wantto bang them just by hearing about them, fine by me. I am just posting my reaction and the humorous actions that were undertaken to get away from them.

3. What was that about white collars and child molesters? What was that about being a master of bigotry and stereotyping?

[AztecWarrior]

Originally Posted by Lonehunter187

All I have to say is,

You didn't think Saw was awesome? damn...

It was OK. I was entertained but I wouldn't recommend it- it's not really special or anything.

[JetRaiden]

its ok to stereotypic goths because theyre all attention whoring angsty ******* who have no problem projecting every feeling in their body in their stupid livejournals.

sorry.