The purpose of life - Page 3

Navaron · 2003-02-15, 11:16 AM

Uh oh Vic, you posted your beliefs in a beliefs thread, don't insult me. I'm going to go insult you in other forums now.

Nohimn · 2003-02-15, 11:18 AM

and you're telling me to grow up. you are a troll.

Destroyeron · 2003-02-15, 11:21 AM

can't we all just get along? and nav, just put it in your signature, it will be easier to insult him in every post you make.

Navaron · 2003-02-15, 11:21 AM

Attention kettle - yep you're black.

diluted · 2003-02-15, 11:27 AM

bah ive been away for awhile and cant keep up with these threads so i havent read many. but the purpose of life is energy transfer. simple as that.

KoldFusion · 2003-02-15, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by Lexington_Steele
So what happens if the people that are the most important to you don't make it to heaven?

What are the requirements for getting to heaven? Are they posted somewhere?

And where do the people who don't go to heaven go?

For your first question..... I deal with this everyday. Most of my family does not believe in God..... All I can do is pray for them. That may not make you feel like I answered you question but that is all you can really do. It is very real that I may not reunited with my family in heaven and it sucks to be sure. I just pray that God will save them.

The requirement for heaven are found in the Bible. Pretty simple. But I feel to truly interpret the Bible you need a work of the Spirit in you. Keep in mind though.... there is not a check list to get into heaven. You can be the absolute most charitable person on Earth for you entire life, But you are still alive in sin and dead to God "Ephesians 2:8-9".. The true requirement to heaven is you believe and love in your heart Jesus Christ b/c he was sent to Earth to bear our punishment "John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life." But it is just more than trust and believing in Him it is having personal relationship to God and living your life in the image of Christ. We all sin no matter if we believe in God or not. It is repenting that makes us right again"Ephesians 1: 1-14".. We must becareful not to sin as believers with the rationale that we can sin as much as we want because God will forgive us anyway "Romans 6:1-14" "Ephesians 1: 1-14".

People who don't go heaven are judged when Chirst comes again. We all will face judgement the saved will pass to heaven and the unsaved will spend an eternity in judgement. Just because you proclaim God outwardly doesn't mean that you have a free pass into heaven. There is a life that must be lived and you need to live it righteously. But you can't do that without the work of the Holy Spirit.

Don't flame me for my beliefs please. If you disagree. You may express it in a constructive way. I will be praying for you wether you like it or not

Destroyeron · 2003-02-15, 11:55 AM

Originally posted by diluted
bah ive been away for awhile and cant keep up with these threads so i havent read many. but the purpose of life is energy transfer. simple as that.

nope its sex, trust me I looked

Ludio · 2003-02-15, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by MrVicchio
If you don't believe in God.. why? If there is no God.. then there is no reason to be a goo dmoral person, everyone should just do whatever the hell they can get away with cause there are no consequnces for ones actions..

Which is, IMHO the main reason many people that are athiest ARE athiest.. cause if they weren't.. they'd have to admit they are living a life that is bad, and they would have to change.. Athesim is, an excuse to live in "sin" because people don't like ot admit they are doing wrong.

Don't you believe that people can do it on their own without a higher power? You make it sound like people can't be good unless they think there is a reward waiting for them in heaven. What are your qualifications of being a moral person? I am moral in all the ways that I can think of, so how is it than that I can do this without a higher power?

Nohimn · 2003-02-15, 12:25 PM

many people don't know what it's like to be a non-believer/believer. I know what it is like to be both b/c I was born into a religious family and was initially a Christian. But I became an athiest b/c a lot of people in Brooklyn advertise their faith and it gets annoying. The more they advertise it, the more I don't beleive in it.

MrVicchio · 2003-02-15, 12:34 PM

People can do whatever they want, but without a morals, people have no reason to be moral... honestly.. most people would be "bad" if they could get away with it, and only laws, rules, and a higher power keep people in line.

Ludio · 2003-02-15, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by MrVicchio
People can do whatever they want, but without a morals, people have no reason to be moral... honestly.. most people would be "bad" if they could get away with it, and only laws, rules, and a higher power keep people in line.

So you don't believe in self control, restraint or ambition?

Nohimn · 2003-02-15, 12:57 PM

us atheists have what I like to call "sanity". Christians have it too, but so do we.