Political Correctness Strikes Again

[Geist]

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...521.shtml?s=ic

But City Council member Dave Thune says removing the decorations went too far, and he wonders why they can't celebrate spring with "bunnies and fake grass."

The Liberals do it again.Hurray for the Easte...I mean "Spring Bunny".

[Heavygain]

This is why my state fucking sucks.

[Mag-Mower]

That seems like a really ballanced website you got there, hawk.

[Hamma]

This thread sucks.

[Electrofreak]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye37

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...521.shtml?s=ic

The Liberals do it again.Hurray for the Easte...I mean "Spring Bunny".

Where does this say liberals were involved?

I still think the worst new "politically correct" term is reffering to illegal immigrants as "guest worker". Fuck no. They're ILLEGAL immigrants, they're in here ILLEGALLY. Do you call a robber in your home a "guest theft specialist"?! Of course not.

So fuck the term "guest worker" and any retard who uses it as if it's a politically correct term. They've already got a politically correct term, it's ILLEGAL ALIEN. If they want to come into this country and become a tax-paying citizen, there's a way to do it. God knows its not simple (Jenn and Hamma know that) and should definately be a simpler process, but it's vital to our nation's economy and security that that the process be followed. Illegal immigrants expect all the rights of an American citizen without paying taxes or having a criminal history on file.

(Yeah, I know, I've been posting a lot of political crap lately... all I can read at work on the internet are articles on CNN )

[Ivan]

What does little pastel-colored egg laying bunnies have to do with the death of Jesus?

[Kyonye]

Originally Posted by Ivan

What does little pastel-colored egg laying bunnies have to do with the death of Jesus?

QFT...

The way Americans celebrate easter (not all, but many) is based on how the marketers and major corporations interpret it.

There is celebrating easter

and

Celebrating American easter.

[Ivan]

Well it's been a long time since I read it but I read that all the icons associated with Easter stem from pagan beliefs of futility. Early christans in an effort to convert pagans to Christianity simply took some of the old pagan traditions and gave them a christan twist.

Same goes with most holidays. Christmas included.

[Geist]

So the pagans are the ones who put in the exchange of presents thing or was that a christian thing?

[Ivan]

Ok, I don't usually get involved in religious or political threads because I think debating those on an internet forum is pointless but I'll just post some quotes with links to the originals so you don't think I'm just making things up.

Originally Posted by The Two Babylons, by Alexander Hislop

***8220;What means the term Easter itself? It is not a Christian name. It bears its Chaldean origin on its very forehead. Easter is nothing else than Astarte, one of the titles of Beltis, the queen of heaven, whose name, . . . as found by Layard on the Assyrian monuments, is Ishtar. . . . Such is the history of Easter. The popular observances that still attend the period of its celebration amply confirm the testimony of history as to its Babylonian character. The hot cross buns of Good Friday, and the dyed eggs of Pasch or Easter Sunday, figured in the Chaldean rites just as they do now.***8221;

The Two Babylons, by Alexander Hislop

Originally Posted by Jeremiah 7:18,19

18:The sons are picking up sticks of wood, and the fathers are lighting the fire, and the wives are kneading flour dough in order to make sacrificial cakes to the ***8216;queen of the heavens***8217;; and there is a pouring out of drink offerings to other gods for the purpose of offending me.19:***8216;Is it I whom they are offending?***8217; is the utterance of God.

Originally Posted by The Catholic Encyclopedia

***8220;The rabbit is a pagan symbol and has always been an emblem of fertility.***8221;

"The custom may have its origin in paganism, for a great many pagan customs, celebrating the return of spring, gravitated to Easter."

The Catholic Encyclopedia

[OneManArmy]

I dunno about you, but biting into a cream filled egg is just a bit better than biting into a cream filled jesus.

chocolate crosses and marshmellow romans.... I'll stick with what we got


on that note did you know spring break is a religious holiday? or rather it was a religous holiday.... stemming from "Semana Santa" or "Holy Week"

[Ivan]

The cross come from pagans too...

Originally Posted by The Non-Christian Cross, by John Denham Parsons

***8220;There is not a single sentence in any of the numerous writings forming the New Testament, which, in the original Greek, bears even indirect evidence to the effect that the stauros used in the case of Jesus was other than an ordinary stauros; much less to the effect that it consisted, not of one piece of timber, but of two pieces nailed together in the form of a cross. . . . it is not a little misleading upon the part of our teachers to translate the word stauros as ***8216;cross***8217; when rendering the Greek documents of the Church into our native tongue, and to support that action by putting ***8216;cross***8217; in our lexicons as the meaning of stauros without carefully explaining that that was at any rate not the primary meaning of the word in the days of the Apostles, did not become its primary signification till long afterwards, and became so then, if at all, only because, despite the absence of corroborative evidence, it was for some reason or other assumed that the particular stauros upon which Jesus was executed had that particular shape.***8221;***8212;pp. 23, 24.

http://www.gutenberg.org/catalog/wor...fk_files=20836

The Greek word generally translated ***8220;cross***8221; is stau***8226;ros***180;. It basically means ***8220;an upright pale or stake.***8221; The Companion Bible points out: ***8220;[Stau***8226;ros***180;] never means two pieces of timber placed across one another at any angle . . . There is nothing in the Greek of the [New Testament] even to imply two pieces of timber.***8221;

In several texts, Bible writers use another word for the instrument of Jesus***8217; death. It is the Greek word xy***180;lon. (Acts 5:30; 10:39; 13:29; Galatians 3:13; 1 Peter 2:24) This word simply means ***8220;timber***8221; or ***8220;a stick, club, or tree.***8221;

Explaining why a simple stake was often used for executions, the book Das Kreuz und die Kreuzigung (The Cross and the Crucifixion), by Hermann Fulda, states: ***8220;Trees were not everywhere available at the places chosen for public execution. So a simple beam was sunk into the ground. On this the outlaws, with hands raised upward and often also with their feet, were bound or nailed.***8221;

The most convincing proof of all, however, comes from God***8217;s Word. The apostle Paul says: ***8220;Christ by purchase released us from the curse of the Law by becoming a curse instead of us, because it is written: ***8216;Accursed is every man hanged upon a stake [***8220;a tree,***8221; King James Version].***8217;***8221; (Galatians 3:13) Here Paul quotes Deuteronomy 21:22, 23, which clearly refers to a stake, not a cross. Since such a means of execution made the person ***8220;a curse,***8221; it would not be proper for Christians to decorate their homes with images of Christ impaled.

There is no evidence that for the first 300 years after Christ***8217;s death, those claiming to be Christians used the cross in worship. In the fourth century, however, pagan Emperor Constantine became a convert to apostate Christianity and promoted the cross as its symbol. Whatever Constantine***8217;s motives, the cross had nothing to do with Jesus Christ. The cross is, in fact, pagan in origin. The New Catholic Encyclopedia admits: ***8220;The cross is found in both pre-Christian and non-Christian cultures.***8221; Various other authorities have linked the cross with nature worship and pagan sex rites.

Why, then, was this pagan symbol promoted? Apparently, to make it easier for pagans to accept ***8220;Christianity.***8221;

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04517a.htm

[Electrofreak]

Originally Posted by Ivan

Well it's been a long time since I read it but I read that all the icons associated with Easter stem from pagan beliefs of futility.

Don't you mean fertility?

Of course... if you're sterile, fertility pretty much is an act of futility.

[Ivan]

Yes sorry.

[Baneblade]

If religious people even knew half of what they say and do is hypocritical dogma, the world would be far better.