So.....Supreme Commander......

[Peacemaker]

Why is it when ever there are three sides, and one hovers everyone starts screaming about a PS rip off?

[Ait'al]

No I'm wondering if it was the guy who created it originally or one of the original dev team members or some member from an original creation team who had influence on it's creation. Some of those features look so close it's kind of rediculous. That was the first thing I though when I saw the opening video after I started the demo. Some of those things are just way too close to PS items. Even some of the names are very similar. And I didn't think some of them were that common in right now. Excluding the use of faction.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_...&sid=undefined
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http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_...&sid=undefined Landscapes are very reminscent.
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_...&sid=undefined Another VS bfr like picture.
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http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_...&sid=undefined TR colors.
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_...&sid=undefined Giant NC like colors and shapes.
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_...&sid=undefined More semi similar but maybe more advanced landscapes. Atleast the same elemental landscapes from PS.
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_...&sid=undefined Another BFR like picture for vs with AT like items that could have been put into their arsenal since they are the alien/ auraxian lovers if the story is the same basic thing.
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_...&sid=undefined Nice sea picture of the Aeon I think.
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_...&sid=undefined Some blue tanks.
One top of that the Red and Black cyberons basic attack aircraft has the heavy rapid fire side to is like some of it's other weapons. Unless that is common to all 3 sides.
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_...&sid=undefined cool air picture of the aeon.
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_...&sid=undefined Legs and arms look like nc max armor design a bit.
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_...&sid=undefined Nice picture of a city.
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_...&sid=undefined TR colors. I'm guessing the original human empire. It has many similarities. Though you can almost see how they would have changed it to remake it in a new scale or more like normal sci fi rts' if you think about their storyline. It's almost backward to the TR and more in their favor. They are technially the oppressors but are coming out at the same time. Like a more sympothetic or more tragic TR storyline.
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_...&sid=undefined
More planes.
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_...&sid=undefined 'Alphelian' like stuff vs TR colored stuff.
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_...&sid=undefined ARe those blue planes on the right like the original PS plane designs?

Some of this stuff are things I could have imagined and were suggested for PS. Like the land air and water battles etc. I though maybe one of them moved on and worked on it in a narative or whatever perspective game, normal for rts, instead of a first person since it would be easier to complete in concept. And maybe because they were more familiar with it. If this guy had anything to do with PS's creation that is.

And I think the Storyline is most similar out of all of it. It really seems to me to be a remake of the whole game idea but with alot more freedom to content creation. With maybe a little bit of added influence from other things like Star wars or starcraft in some minor ways. Or maybe this guys past games. And other military type creations. But the 3 Factions are too remarkably or eerily similar to the PS Empires in too many ways.

Edit: Another point. If you watch the intro movie. At one point a drop ship lands with alot of tanks and drops them off. It's only difference is the fact that is has two muzzles. It has the exact same paint job as the NC tanks. Well, ok, on second look it's not identicaly but it is close and it is blue and yellow. 8) Looked very close to identical when I first saw it. I also thought the opening sceen somewhat after was similar in that the planes looked like beta planes and the turning giant robot that shoots at them looked alot like the original giant looking maxes in some ways.

[Rbstr]

You can change colors?

The whole concept of this game belongs to a classic RTS's (Total anihilation, Core VS. Arm fit cybran and UEF in terms of empire vs. splinter group) + one faction.

The problem is your activley looking for these things. Just like any conspiracy if you want to belive it, you find evidence to make it so.

Though you may acctualy have decent evidence, it's just that every picture is the same thing...

[Ait'al]

I just don't know how common these items are now adays or where they are all coming from. It's just odd the designs aren't that far off. Was PS getting developers attention or is this all coming from some other games or groups of artist/storywriters or something?

Are the guys connected somehow? It is a bussiness. Maybe it is just some of the same guys. Is one of the artists or story designers working on this game. Or a group of the same guys? I thought at first maybe it was some base designer for PS getting away from SOE to remake the game on a new scale. But I guess more of it is stuff that could be attributed to storywriters or artists if not. Assuming the story wasn't that integral to PSes original design. Maybe those are some of their semi defining vehicle/armor styles or story features. (or, like I said, since this is a famous game designer, maybe he worked on ps and I didn't know it.)

Yea, I copied the links. I guess they didn't have the info to go to the picture I was on. Just hit the buttons on top and cycle through them and look at them if you want. Or find the index and pick from the thumbnails.(Obviously you won't get what I'm talking about specifically for each link but you will atleast see them.)

Btw, the first mission of the demo is boring. It looks like with all the stuff it could be as interesting as starcraft. But I don't know if I have gotten far enough into the game to see the full scale of it. Do the other features I haven't seen make it better? I want to get into the bigger parts of the game and see what it is like but I have get this feeling the demo won't let me play enough. Does it get better as they give you more units and stuff?

And the artwork(or modeling/rendering) in some of those pictures is really beautiful. They need to showcase it in game more. It's too easy to spend too much time really far away to get a veiw of everything and move stuff.

[Peacemaker]

There are only so many ways to make a tank.

There are only so many ways to make a giant robot.

Looking at those screenshots I see stuff that reminds me of C&C. Looks to me that they made the game, theres 3 sides, each has its own units. One side has a single unit that resembles the VS BFR. Average RTS look. Ive seen like 4 games in the past year that share traits with PS. None of them have devs from them. Maybe some guy said "Hey this thing in PS looks cool. Lets see what we can do with the same concept."

[Hamma]

To be honoest I never noticed any PS similarities when I started playing it.

Although I did notice the Aeon Tech 4 "spaceship" is a ripoff of indepedence day.

[Lartnev]

Thought it was a complete rip off of Total Annihilation to be honest.... oh wait!

I don't think Supreme Commander has much in common with Planetside aside from it's futuristic and involves large bipedal robots walking around the battlefield (which is definately from TA, no Aphelion copying here).

However.... I did get a strange nostalgia for Planetside when I played on the skirmish map that came with the demo, but I think it's because the shield generators towering over the lush terrain reminded me of a warpgate on Cyssor or something.

[Ait'al]

I think that is kind of what I meant. I got that watching the opening vid. I thought it seemed like they had taken the PS stuff and expanded it with alot of new units so it was harder to see them now. Or maybe the guys who made this was the guys who made PS and he he took his normal units and compressed them to get the PS model for unit types. I got a strong feeling like I was almost in PS from certain things. Especially from certain screen shots and the opening story a bit. Just thought it was cool or hoped it had been the same guys so maybe we would have the same dev guys or something working on a new game. 8) Especialy if this had a nice MMO multiplayer setup. EVen if it was more like traditional Turn based where you have a difference between battle and other modes. AKA battles you go into with player limits but expansive areas to conquer in some way or another. It would just depend how much new stuff they would want to design into a new type of system like that.

And If you use your engies and/or comander you can speed up unit creation alot. I can do that to pump out planes faster for air strikes and stuff. I had 160 bombers plus about 83 interceptors for the tech retreival game before I hit some unit max. Worked out well. I'm not sure if Tech lv two engineers are faster or if maybe they have 2 unit builders one them. But they, or engineers in general, help.

[Disconnecting]

Logic:
SC - Carebear Stare & out plops a tank.
PS - Smurfs and Barneys but no Carebear.
Therefor:
SC =/= PS

[Rbstr]

Originally Posted by Disconnecting

Logic:
SC - Carebear Stare & out plops a tank.

EVE has carebears.

EVE = to SC? perhaps!!!!@1

[Infernus]

Originally Posted by firecrackerNC

Dell

Originally Posted by firecrackerNC

computer

????

[firecrackerNC]

I didnt pay for it so doesnt matter to me lmao. A computers a computer IMO

[Rbstr]

Some computers suck hardcore.

Others do not.

[Hamma]

Dell's do not suck hardcore. Wouldn't buy one as a gaming rig though. But they certainly kick the shit out of any other workstation for office use. Their warranty service is ownage.

HP's are garbage now. :\

Someday Infernus, you will realize there is more to life than just your mac book.

[Peacemaker]

No he wont. This is infernus we are talking about.