Planetside NEXT on PC and ... ps3

[Furret]

You'd think Sony would put their own game on their own console...

[Sifer2]

Exano I respect you trying to defend the PS3 an all. An yeah its not THAT outdated but still definitely behind what affordable PC's can currently do. As a owner of a newer PC it would obviously upset me if I am forced to play a new Planetside that is less awesome than it could have been just because they wanted to scale it down to work on PS3 too. Which they WILL have to don't kid yourself there.

I mean just compare MAG to Planetside which is 7 years older. Planetside is a much larger world an originally I think offered more players at a time including all 3 factions battling at once. Compared to MAG which like I said is just Battlefield with more players. I mean if it takes a console 7 years just to do Battlefield with lots of players then how can you think it wont be gimping Planetside 2?

Think of what Planetside 2 COULD be NOW. 7 years later exclusive to PC an designed to take full advantage of the platform. It would blow MAG out of the water an be a FPS unlike any other to date. I mean if you only have a PS3 I could see why it might be in your best interest to encourage them making Planetside 2 for it. But its also a bit selfish to want that too since your only holding the game back from what it could be.

[Furret]

What makes you think MAG is the most the PS3 can handle.
My experience with MAG consists of watching about two youtube videos on it, though i can already tell its not nearly as huge as planetside.

I'd hate for this to turn into an argument about whether or not the ps3 can handle a new planetside, because then i couldn't participate, seeing as i have close to no experience with PS3 other than rock band and COD4

Though, we also can't look at the PS3 as the platform that PS will be run on.
I can guaruntee, sony will come out with a 'PS4' of sorts that match or beat the capacity of whatever computer you have now. Unless you spent $2000+ on it of course. PSN isnt coming out for a while, so there's plenty of time for technology advances, and for fast technology to become cheap, so who knows what the capacity of the 'PS4' will be.

And I cant believe i'm actually counting on Sony to completely overdo a fucking CONSOLE.
But whatever

[Sifer2]

How do I know MAG is the most the PS3 can handle? I don't. However considering its completely exclusive to that console one would think it was built entirely with its hardware in mind an to take maximum use of it. Thus its reasonable to assume the PS3 can't handle much more than MAG without having to majorly tone down the graphics or get bad frames per second.

An as I said MAG doesn't even offer the size an depth of the original Planetside. So to think that making Planetside 2 a console game an porting it to PC wont really hold it back is not being reasonable. Which is how it works. You don't build for PC an then port to console since that's way more difficult. So if its multiplat it will not be as good that's all their is to it really.

Saying there could be a PS4 is silly is there has been no info on the existence of one. An the funny thing was a videogame analyst on a show I watched the other day was saying if there is it will probably cost 800 dollars. Dunno about you but I could build a nice new PC for that. I am not trying to troll consoles please don't misunderstand me. I just want Planetside 2 to be the most awesome game possible taking FPS genre to the next level. An I know that can only happen if its built for PC.

[Furret]

You're probably right actually.
The consoles are kinda becoming computers anyway, with internet and everything.
Really, i think the only difference between consoles and computers (in the near future) will be slightly less processing power/graphics/sound quality and a difference in the way you control your character (WASD/Mouse vs Joysticks)

Perhaps a separate version for the consoles and PC?

Combining the PC and consoles is a good idea, but I'll agree with on this; PlanetSide isn't the best game to do it with.

[Baneblade]

The allure of PS was never the graphics. Even in 2003.

[Hamma]

If they consolize any MMOFPS they will have one less subscriber.

Conzolizing games is the single most destructive thing to gaming during this day in age. We have features that have been part of PC games for years going to the wayside because companies focus on console first which lacks the features of the PC platform.

[Baneblade]

Only a dumb developer does that though since consoles can do all the functions a PC does as far as gameplay is concerned.

I'm not a console lover btw.

[Hamma]

Going to have to disagree there consoles are far more limited in terms of Controls and UI. I've seen variety of instances where that crap makes the PC version limited also because companies would rather rake in easy cash from console users than spend time on quality game development.

[Baneblade]

Actually, it was demonstrated that the gamepad alone has more practical control functionality than mouse and board.

[DviddLeff]

Which game was it where PC players could fight those on the consoles?

Pretty sure that ended up with PC users cleaning up due to the superior accuracy of the mouse alone.

[Vancha]

Originally Posted by Sobekeus

Actually, it was demonstrated that the gamepad alone has more practical control functionality than mouse and board.

I have at least 96 keys on my keyboard available for gaming (excluded some like capslock and windows keys), add to that the 3 buttons equivalent to triggers on my mouse, the button on the side of it and the fact that the mouse is far better as a camera control in FPS...

Do you have a link to this demonstration you spoke of? The only thing I can think of that a console controller has over a mouse is the ability to control strength (pushing slightly on the joystick/triggers can act differently to pushing all the way). Though thinking about the aircraft in PS, a mouse could do that too...

[Baneblade]

Originally Posted by Vancha

I have at least 96 keys on my keyboard available for gaming

So you actually use every single one of those 96 keys in your practical keymaps?

And why haven't you hacked your capslock or windows keys yet?

[Hamma]

And demonstrated by whom?

I'm sorry but thats a crock.

Sounds more like an opinion of someone as opposed to a fact. It is a limited interface and games designed specifically for it or with it in mind end up shitty on the PC plain and simple.

[Vancha]

Originally Posted by Sobekeus

So you actually use every single one of those 96 keys in your practical keymaps?

No.

Originally Posted by Sobekeus

And why haven't you hacked your capslock or windows keys yet?

Originally Posted by Vancha

No.

Thinking about planetside though...

Foward/Back/Strafe-left/Strafe-right
Jump
Crouch
Fire
Alternate fire
Enter vehicle+Use terminal
Character screen
Squad screen
Map screen
Implant screen
Outfit screen
Inventory
Pistol 1
Pistol 2
Rifle 1
Rifle 2
Knife
Implant 1
Implant 2
Implant 3
Medkit
Zoom

That's what I can remember off the top of my head from having played 2 years ago. I think you'd have trouble fitting that onto a console controller.

Now consider that there was the chat window which used forward slash or enter, along with the keys you needed to say what you wanted to say. Add to that the three different voice-command menus that were navigated by keypress...

Also, mouse+keyboard gives you the ability to be holding 5 keys and 3 mouse-buttons at once, while still being able to look around. I can be strafing sideways, moving foward, crouching, reloading my gun, firing and use a medpack without needing to move my fingers to different buttons/keys (W+A+Ctrl+R+Mouse 1+Mouse 4). Granted, not a situation that will come up all too often, but still...