Gameplay suggestion: Pistols, rifles, shotguns can't harm tanks and such

[Graywolves]

Originally Posted by Captain1nsaneo

As for what should do damage to vehicles: Wasn't it a magical moment when you killed that BFR with a sniper rifle?

Last month I killed a BFR with my repeater as a Cloaker. Seriously.

[Bags]

My friend got one with a beamer.

[Captain B]

That's because you're thinking PS1. PS2 (I hope to fucking God) will be different with its air-to-ground combat. I am so tired of this bullshit where an idiot in a mosquito floats down and starts fighting me from 10 feet away. As far as I'm concerned, if I'm quick on the draw and am prepped for it, I should be able to unload a clip into the pilot in his cockpit and kill him.

I'm not saying take a Gauss and drop the pilot in 3 shots. But at the same time, if you want to get up close and personal with an enemy who has a machine gun and a clear, point-blank line of fire, you're asking for trouble.

[Traak]

Originally Posted by Captain B

...where an idiot in a mosquito floats down and starts fighting me from 10 feet away. As far as I'm concerned, if I'm quick on the draw and am prepped for it, I should be able to unload a clip into the pilot in his cockpit and kill him.

Yes, the 260km/h high-speed hovering Mech is not something I want to see in the game, either.

OSK's on Mosquito pilots! No, let's not go there,

[Captain B]

Originally Posted by Traak

OSK's on Mosquito pilots! No, let's not go there,

I agree, that's why I haven't.

[Kouza]

Originally Posted by Bags

My friend got one with a beamer.

I got one with an AMP

( literally shot one bullet it was maybe 1 HP of 20,000 lol)

[Draep]

In no other vehicular FPS game I can think of do bullets do damage to tank armor. It's unbelievable someone would want an assault rifle to be able to merc out a tank under any circumstances, it just seems stupid. Also, I don't imagine anyone designing a tank would make critical exposed wires, engine parts, fuel lines or anything like that able to be damaged by small arms fire.

Tanks, in an infantry support rule, are designed to protect against bullets. Not having a single AV equipped trooper in your squad is your own fault and you should have to fall back as punishment.

[dm Akolyte]

Because PS1 didn't have enough of a problem with vehicles mercilessly farming grunts....

[BUGGER]

Armor piercing rounds perhaps. But I found it annoying every once in a blue moon after spamming a Vangaurd with Deci's it got destroyed by someone elses smaller arms.


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BEP for damage dealt to vehicles? Only in your lifespan can you earn the points, within a time window? Expand on this.

[Draep]

Before this thread goes any further: there will be no AP ammo. Can't source this but its been mentioned previously in this thread and I def remember reading this.

[CutterJohn]

I hope thats true. AP ammo was just a silly idea, and an even sillier implementation.

[Bags]

That would contradict T-Rays previous statement that there would be a few ammo types.

[Raymac]

Originally Posted by kaffis

Driver-gunned tanks. You can't set the bar high against that. If you're going to have MBTs be solo-able equipment, they need to have paper thin armor. Which means, sure, I want a knife to be able to scratch it, too.

You know, I didn't factor this in. I want to change my vote from AV only to anything, although I think pistols and the like should do very little damage. It probably would be a good way to balance it out if we see a huge number of solo tanks on the battlefield. B is for Beta and Balance, so time will tell.

[ThGlump]

Dont counter one bad mechanic (driver-gunner) with another (pistol kill tank).

[Draep]

Originally Posted by Raymac

You know, I didn't factor this in. I want to change my vote from AV only to anything, although I think pistols and the like should do very little damage. It probably would be a good way to balance it out if we see a huge number of solo tanks on the battlefield. B is for Beta and Balance, so time will tell.

I imagine tanks will have thin armor against other tanks and advanced AV infantry weapons. If there are many tanks on the field and adequate cover for infantry on much of the terrain, making bullets able to harm tanks would be superfluous.