News: PlanetSide 2 Backstory Henry Briggs Part 2

[Canaris]

Originally Posted by FastAndFree

It works better if you eject only the shell cases, but I guess there is a reason why you are issued simple projectile weapons...

Actually
the shell is the case, the bit it fires is the bullet but I wouldn't expect the disco light brigade to know the difference



ZING!

[Captain1nsaneo]

Originally Posted by Talek Krell

Is there some alternate definition of genocide that says "the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group. Unless of course it's just homosexuals."?

Well if it counts as genocide or not is actually based entirely how loose you are with the definition of the word "behavior". But if you do it becomes that the ones who are committing genocide against homosexuals are in fact homosexuals.

First let's define genocide, there's a UN convention on it so we can use their definition

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Let's look at "Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group". Outside of human parthenogenesis you can't naturally reproduce in a homosexual relationship. Ergo, a strict homosexual is preventing births in their group. So if homosexuals qualify as "a national, ethnical, racial or religious group" they are committing genocide against themselves. I find this technicality amusing.

So why does the definition of behavior matter? Well look at the definition of genocide. National groups are either those bound by states or a group sharing culture and/or ethnicity. There is no Homoistan so we have to rely on the second definition whose bits are already in the list (culture/ethnicity).

Ethnical is the next definition which can be "Ethnic or of or relating to ethnology." Ethnology is effectively the study of human culture so that's another mark for culture. Ethnic is the more fun of the two but I'm going to ignore its more eccentric definitions and go for "Of or relating to a group of people having common racial, national, religious or cultural origins."

I'm not going to bother with "racial or religious group" as neither of those apply. (I am also now noticing that the convention missed an oxford comma) So it comes down to culture which has shown up in every previous definition though not in the main text. Culture's primary definition brings us to needing to know the definition of society and nation the latter of which we've covered. Society brings us to "norms of behavior" oddly enough the word behavior also shows up in one of culture's lower definitions.

And that's why we need to define "behavior". Well Google puts it as "2: The way in which an animal or person acts in response to a particular situation or stimulus." Wikipedia says "1: The way a living creature behaves or acts." And dictionary.com has "1. manner of behaving or acting."

So yes, if we go several definitions deep we can say that genocide covers homosexuals. But it would also mean that western governments are committing genocide daily. Not against homosexuals but against pedophiles. Go back and look at definition (e) "Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group" pretty sure that happens all the time and if we're defining genocide to include sexual behavior it counts.

May I suggest you find a new word to get upset over? Like "homoromanticide"?

tl;dr
Learn what's worth getting upset over, like Saudi Arabia's treatment of anyone who isn't Male, straight, and Muslim. Good day.

[Graywolves]

tl;dr
Learn what's worth getting upset over, like Saudi Arabia's treatment of anyone who isn't Male, straight, and Muslim. Good day.[/QUOTE]

I know! Why the fuck do I need to be muslim?

[Raka Maru]

Originally Posted by FastAndFree

It works better if you eject only the shell cases, but I guess there is a reason why you are issued simple projectile weapons...

Flying projectiles! Accept no substitute!

Originally Posted by Canaris

Actually
the shell is the case, the bit it fires is the bullet but I wouldn't expect the disco light brigade to know the difference

ZING!

Gotta say, this back story has been the best read I've had in months.

The depth of Briggs psychosis or rather spiritual experience has placed barney in a new light for me, I will feel sad every time one of you falls to the ground now.

[Talek Krell]

Originally Posted by Captain1nsaneo

Learn what's worth getting upset over, like Saudi Arabia's treatment of anyone who isn't Male, straight, and Muslim. Good day.

You waste 9 paragraphs to tell me that I'm correct and then, presumably based on the exhaustive summary of my mood and emotional state that I didn't include in the post, insist that I'm too upset over the matter?

You're kind of an idiot.

[Captain1nsaneo]

Originally Posted by Talek Krell

You waste 9 paragraphs to tell me that I'm correct and then, presumably based on the exhaustive summary of my mood and emotional state that I didn't include in the post, insist that I'm too upset over the matter?

You're kind of an idiot.

Great, you know I have a character flaw that requires me to defend anything I say right? (It's the reason why I suck at /comall)

I did not say you were correct, nor did I say you were incorrect. It's all in how pedantic you want to be. Personally I do not believe that the convention as written was meant to apply to homosexuals. If it did it wouldn't have been passed by the UN general assembly as a number of the countries who are signatories actively hunt down gays.

Also that was a piss poor ad hominem attack. Do better next time.

[Talek Krell]

Originally Posted by Captain1nsaneo

So yes, if we go several definitions deep we can say that genocide covers homosexuals.

This would appear to me to be an admission that my statement was accurate provided only that we use the actual definitions of the words.

My opinion on your personal attributes is unrelated, and proves nothing about your arguments. I'm not even certain what it is that you're arguing. I just don't think you're being very bright.