Possibility of Premium Servers for PS2? - Page 4

SKYeXile · 2011-12-20, 06:08 PM

Heres some data for people that still dont get f2p.

In WOT i'v spent about $400 in 6 months, thats:

8 once off $50 box fees.
26 months worth of $15.00 subs
23 months of subs if you discount a $50 box fee.
avg of $66 spent a month effectivly supports 4.4 total free players.

F2P has been proven on many occasians to be a more profitble business model than P2P.

Effective · 2011-12-21, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by Sifer2

Some mentioned League of Legends. But I doubt that game took a tenth of the same budget Planetside 2 will cost to produce and operate.

And probably would/will still make a similar amount (if not more) to what a non-F2P PS2 would profit wise.

SgtMAD · 2011-12-21, 11:07 AM

why are you feeding this guy, his argument is pointless and not very well thought out at all and this damn thread is up to 3 pages now.

CutterJohn · 2011-12-21, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by Sifer2

Interesting link there. Since reading that almost spells it out for me how Pay 2 Win will work once its clear selling hats isn't paying the bills. I would guess something like:

Free: Can use 1 weapon and 1 tool(medkit,hack device). Cannot use MAX armor or drive any vehicle except ATV.

Premium: Can use 2 weapons and 1 tool. Can use MAX and all Vehicles but cannot customize their loadout.

Legendary: Can use 2 weapons and 2 tools plus get a Sidearm. Can use MAX and all Vehicles plus customize their loadouts. Such as putting anti-air gun on your tank.

Or am I just not putting enough faith into SOE on this one you think? Really its not even a matter of faith I think its just economics. As much money as they are spending on this game judging by its awesome graphics. To give all that away for free without even making profit from box sales? There had better be a lot of people with a hat fetish that play this.

Some mentioned League of Legends. But I doubt that game took a tenth of the same budget Planetside 2 will cost to produce and operate.

Once again, I'll sum up this argument.

"Its a travesty that I should have to pay to compete in this game, so to fix it, I demand that I should be required to pay simply to play at all!"

Why not just.. Pay?

Zulthus · 2011-12-21, 12:54 PM

If PS2 ends up being a "pay to compete" game, then they're doing something wrong. The whole idea of the game is that anyone can kill anyone, regardless of how much money one spends in the cash shop on handicaps, how much rank they have, etc etc. It should be based on nothing other than player skill. I fear that the cash shop will change all of that.

Effective · 2011-12-21, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by Zulthus

If PS2 ends up being a "pay to compete" game, then they're doing something wrong. The whole idea of the game is that anyone can kill anyone, regardless of how much money one spends in the cash shop on handicaps, how much rank they have, etc etc. It should be based on nothing other than player skill. I fear that the cash shop will change all of that.

A cash shop does not mean "pay to win"

Zulthus · 2011-12-21, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by Effective

A cash shop does not mean "pay to win"

I didn't say it was. I said it can be. If they end up selling guns/attachments/boosts etc with advantages that you can only get in the cash shop, then there will be some "pay to win" going on. Selling sidegrades is selling power in many cases. As I have said before, reducing accuracy while increasing damage on a gun will be selling power to the person that uses it indoors compared to the person who does not spend any money.

ThGlump · 2011-12-21, 02:03 PM

pay to win, pay to compete. Thats bullshit.
All i want is to pay to be be able to enjoy game -> pay to get rid off hackers grievers etc.

CutterJohn · 2011-12-21, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by Zulthus

I didn't say it was. I said it can be. If they end up selling guns/attachments/boosts etc with advantages that you can only get in the cash shop, then there will be some "pay to win" going on. Selling sidegrades is selling power in many cases. As I have said before, reducing accuracy while increasing damage on a gun will be selling power to the person that uses it indoors compared to the person who does not spend any money.

Then take the money that you saved by not having to pay for the box and subscription, and purchase those sidegrades. People who choose not to do this just want free stuff. People who cannot do this couldn't even play in a standard mmo model, and at least get to play, even if at a slight disadvantage.

Pay to win a bit more > pay to play at all.

Trolltaxi · 2011-12-21, 02:11 PM

Any form of a misinterpreted elitism based on money payed is an epic fail in an MMO.

SKYeXile · 2011-12-21, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by CutterJohn

Then take the money that you saved by not having to pay for the box and subscription, and purchase those sidegrades. People who choose not to do this just want free stuff. People who cannot do this couldn't even play in a standard mmo model, and at least get to play, even if at a slight disadvantage.

Pay to win a bit more > pay to play at all.

i doubt he will pay if he can avoid it, from all his posts it spells out tight ass.

Zulthus · 2011-12-21, 04:41 PM

I am a "tight ass". I'm not going to spend money on stuff I can otherwise unlock in-game. I'm not a hardcore player, as I've said many times before.

Crator · 2011-12-22, 10:47 AM

^^^ I kind of share this mentality. I treat it as a challenge... With that said however, I'm sure they'll find something to put in the shop that we just have to have though...

Espion · 2011-12-22, 10:50 AM

The point of being F2P is basically to keep a continuous supply of new players coming ingame... and splitting the playerbase onto different servers based on whether they're paying or not really defeats that purpose since they'd never get to experience the real game unless they paid up-front first.

SgtMAD · 2011-12-22, 12:03 PM

look at all the cheapskates crying in this thread.

I personally will throw money around in that cash shop like a drunken oil field rough neck on a sex tour of thailand( I worked with these guys years ago that had some of the wildest stories about their days off after working offshore the coast of Africa for 30 days on/off)