Free to download? - Page 8

Bravix · 2011-12-25, 09:10 PM

Wait, I was under the understanding that Guild Wars was b2p, but I guess I was wrong. Its obviously f2p

*cough cough* http://mmohuts.com/editorials/buy-to...s-free-to-play *nudge nudge*

Rumblepit · 2011-12-25, 09:43 PM

thats a good read. 500 mill a year is allot of money. f2p dose very well with the mmorpgs because they are not skill based games .therefor they get very little hackers, not many hacks out there that can help you in a mmo. when its implemented on a skill based game/fps, things change. the whole game is based on skill , and hacks are made to help those noobs who cant compete.and when they are caught and banned they come right back and do it again. this is why i am worried. there is know way to keep the hackers out.

ShockFC · 2011-12-25, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by Rumblepit

thats a good read. 500 mill a year is allot of money. f2p dose very well with the mmorpgs because they are not skill based games .therefor they get very little hackers, not many hacks out there that can help you in a mmo. when its implemented on a skill based game/fps, things change. the whole game is based on skill , and hacks are made to help those noobs who cant compete.and when they are caught and banned they come right back and do it again. this is why i am worried. there is know way to keep the hackers out.

Oh dear... This guy

Effective · 2011-12-25, 09:58 PM

If you have to buy the game, that is not free to play. You had to pay for, that is the exact opposite of FREE.

Sifer2 · 2011-12-25, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by Effective

If you have to buy the game, that is not free to play. You had to pay for, that is the exact opposite of FREE.

Well MMO's typically have subs. So Free subscription could classify as F2P as well IMO.

Which to me is really the model Planetside 2 should be going with. Charge standard FPS price for the box. Free to play after that with server operation costs payed for by the cosmetics shop.

This totally Free model I think will fail. Hackers will be part of what brings it down if they go with it. The other half will be that cosmetics sales alone wont be able to deliver the profit margin they expect. And they will have to start selling power which will ruin a competitive game.

SKYeXile · 2011-12-25, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by Sifer2

Well MMO's typically have subs. So Free subscription could classify as F2P as well IMO.

Which to me is really the model Planetside 2 should be going with. Charge standard FPS price for the box. Free to play after that with server operation costs payed for by the cosmetics shop.

This totally Free model I think will fail. Hackers will be part of what brings it down if they go with it. The other half will be that cosmetics sales alone wont be able to deliver the profit margin they expect. And they will have to start selling power which will ruin a competitive game.

This isn't their first F2P BBQ, have some faith.

ThGlump · 2011-12-25, 11:00 PM

I have more faith in that soe will ignore hackers if they buy something from the store than they will try to get rid of them.

But still i hope (im silly i know) that if I (we) will scream loud enough they could change f2p to b2p (would like p2p but thats far of).

Bravix · 2011-12-26, 03:30 AM

Originally Posted by Rumblepit

thats a good read. 500 mill a year is allot of money. f2p dose very well with the mmorpgs because they are not skill based games .therefor they get very little hackers, not many hacks out there that can help you in a mmo. when its implemented on a skill based game/fps, things change. the whole game is based on skill , and hacks are made to help those noobs who cant compete.and when they are caught and banned they come right back and do it again. this is why i am worried. there is know way to keep the hackers out.

You be trollin', I can't seriously believe that someone with the intelligence to type in a URL could have missed the entire point of that.

Rumblepit · 2011-12-26, 11:41 AM

getting way off topic again, the point of this thread is to confirm weather or not the game will be free to download. can any of you confirm this?people f2p is a model type,,,, it could be called "shet on skyexile to play" but this dose not mean we all have to shet on sky to play it. its the name of a business model.

like i said there are few types of f2p models, hybrids with pay and free to play using mircotransactions, or pay to download free to play using microtansactions, or free to play free to download using microtransactions.

one of these models comes with 90% more hackers then the others.

Hamma · 2011-12-26, 11:59 AM

Nobody can confirm it for sure - but considering that the pre-order disappeared off sites like Gamestop a week or two ago I'd think it is pretty safe to assume it will be free to download with a valid station account.

All of this speculation and fuzzy math about hackers is far to focused on. SOE knows as well as everyone in this thread that Hackers are the bane of online gaming. If they are smart they will have tons of systems in place to deal with these issues.

They already know their pricing model I'm sure and are planning their policies around that.

SgtMAD · 2011-12-26, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by Hamma

Nobody can confirm it for sure - but considering that the pre-order disappeared off sites like Gamestop a week or two ago I'd think it is pretty safe to assume it will be free to download with a valid station account.

All of this speculation and fuzzy math about hackers is far to focused on. SOE knows as well as everyone in this thread that Hackers are the bane of online gaming. If they are smart they will have tons of systems in place to deal with these issues.

They already know their pricing model I'm sure and are planning their policies around that.

plz don't lock this thread, it has proved to be a very entertaining read so far,the guy won't give up

Nephilimuk · 2011-12-26, 01:56 PM

I think it is a Derek Smart alt... its the only logical explanation or possible line of defense

Rumblepit · 2011-12-26, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by HtSgtMAD

plz don't lock this thread, it has proved to be a very entertaining read so far,the guy won't give up

your quite the asshat yourself.

they did pull the game , i know. dosnt mean their wont be digital download . why waste the money and man power to make a game and send it all over the world, when you can sell it online and save a tone.

i would really hate to see this game be free to download. i would like to think they are leaning toward a hybrid f2p model. if not ???? well we all know what the outcome will be.

the problem with many different hack prevention programs, and other defenses is they all cost money. fp2 revolves around making money. im sure they have a budget just for the hacker issue , but if they cant keep them out , then the community suffers.

Hamma · 2011-12-26, 02:35 PM

No.. actually we don't know what the outcome will be.

SgtMAD · 2011-12-26, 03:30 PM

LOL, I have been divorced twice, I have been called far worst than "asshat" in court by a lawyer that I ended up paying for in the end so if you want to try to get under my skin you better leave that weak sauce shit at home.

never the less none of this changes the fact that if you pay for something is it not considered free.

I haven't called you any names or really flamed you at all, in fact i just keep making the point and you cannot come up with a decent enough argument to convince anyone else that you are correct.