Tank Vrs Tank Vrs Tank Vrs Tank! - Page 4

AztecWarrior · 2003-03-05, 07:32 PM

The MAG-Rider is good for racing. But not for combat. 'cause when you HAVE to shoot, the shots they fire actually DO something to you!

The Prowler is not bad, actually.

The Vanguard is King of the battlefield.

The Lightning is awesome for like flak or anti-infantry. Like going into the base with the MAXes while Vanguards provide anti-vehicle cover. Do not attempt to engage a main battle tank unless in packs or defensively. You will get your hind end kicked. Unless it's a MAG-Rider.

SandTrout · 2003-03-05, 10:24 PM

The Prowler is also a 3-man tank. It has a driver, a gunner for the main guns, and the mini-guns on top can be controled independently by a 2nd gunner. Also, the prowler has 2 100mm cannons, thats 200 total mms of firepower. The mini-guns will without a doubt have a much higher ROF than the Vangaurd's 20mms, but do less damage per shot, as the are 12mms(roughly .50 cal).

If this game is going to be anything like real life in relation to the uses of different weapon calibers, the 20mms will still be useful against other medium-heavy tanks, while the 12mms will only be effective against aircraft, light armor, and infantry.

However, this might upset the game balance, so don't count on anything at this point.

Moloch · 2003-03-06, 12:18 AM

Can the magrider cannon move up/down? If not, it sucks.

Fire_Monkey · 2003-03-06, 12:22 AM

most likely, otherwise that Would suckxxorz

Zatrais · 2003-03-06, 07:21 AM

Looks like theres a joint that allows for vertical movement on it yeah

NeoTassadar · 2003-03-06, 09:13 AM

I hope they don't make the Mag-Rider that much weaker in armor and weapons (Mag-Rider:Prowler = Sherman:JagPanther), but if they do, that thing will have to be damn zippy. Then I wouldn't care. What's the use of any turret if your enemy can go faster than it can turn to track it? Anyone who played AvP will know what I mean (the Smartgun/Plasmacaster useless against anyone who knows what they're doing as Alien). Not just autoaim, though. These are turrets, so it's not like just turning around on foot.

Camping Carl · 2003-03-06, 09:24 AM

They won't bother balancing it. I mean, why would they? The vanu are supposed to lose, that's what they're there for.

NeoTassadar · 2003-03-06, 09:28 AM

*smiles politely while loading gun under table*

Vicentegrad · 2003-03-06, 10:10 AM

the Sherman reference makes an interesting point

will there be something in the game that will allow the VS to have more tanks than either the TR or NC? In WWII the Sherman was quite frankly a bad tank but we had so godamned many of them. Like we used to say of the Soviet Red Army: Quantity has a quality all of its own.

How do you get a tank anyway? Are they purchased? Or do you pop one out of the vending machine once you have a cert

Zatrais · 2003-03-06, 10:13 AM

Walk up to a terminal and order one... no limits.

Vicentegrad · 2003-03-06, 10:20 AM

so certs are the only thing limiting tank numbers....hmmm, is this good or bad? I can't tell

NeoTassadar · 2003-03-06, 11:18 AM

Good. They took out money, so do you want to stand in line for ten minutes for it to come in/spawn or whatever?

Kalam · 2003-03-06, 11:22 AM

I do not understand, why everyone thinks of the Mag-Rider as some kind of lightwight.

Let's see what it says in the Vehicle Stats:

Mag-rider
Source: Vanu Sovereignty
Type: Heavy Tank
Role: Heavy assault

so it may even be heavier armored than the Vanguard, which is only classified as medium.

Zatrais · 2003-03-06, 11:23 AM

wheter or not you have to wait in line to be able to use the vehicle terminal and if theres a user limit on the termial hasn't been officialy stated but i'd imagen there is...

Basicly, you walk up to a terminal, wait for the guy to finnish spawning his vehicle if theres 1 using the termianl. Once you've spawned the vehicle you want you're "flagged" whit a timer that prevents you from spawning more vehicles.. how long that timer is isn't something i know, but i don't see it as beeing too long, just enough to keep llamas from spamming vehicles all over a base.

Vicentegrad · 2003-03-06, 11:24 AM

*sigh* good ol' forum community

anyhow, if I were commanding a group of VS (which I won't be, har har) I'd try for mass mechanized force

If you weren't in a MAX, a Magrider, or a Thresher, you weren't coming. This way you use the maneuverability advantage to it's fullest extent. It would allow you to rip enemy infantry to shreds with the Threshers, while my tanks and MAX's get rid of the enemy light-vehicles. Once this is done, my entire force could flit about the enemy tanks with stick-and-move tactics...hopefully