Planetside TV's Planetside 2 video footage:

SuperMorto · 2012-04-05, 07:44 PM

For any new folks around here:

From oldest to newest:

www.PlanetsideTV.com

Skitrel · 2012-04-05, 07:49 PM

Good stuff. Couldn't the old content just have been bumped. Seems like spammy fishing for views to me

...No?

Edit: First video is private too.

SuperMorto · 2012-04-05, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by Skitrel

Good stuff. Couldn't the old content just have been bumped. Seems like spammy fishing for views to me

...No?

Edit: First video is private too.

You really think bumping 4 old threads is better than creating 1 new one? Sometime I just don't get you? Also why would I be fishing for views? Some of the videos have over 20,000 they don't need any more. In fact I'm fishing for new folks "as stated" to show them a good amount of video of Planetside 2. That has been in some way edited and improved on by me. As I have done for months now. If I find something I think I can improve on I do. Shame you don't think like me.

But thanks for your greatly valued supportive reply.

Skitrel · 2012-04-05, 08:03 PM

Hmm, 4 threads. Very well, still though... Own content submissions make my skin crawl. Possibly a little bit conditioned by reddit on that one but still.

sylphaen · 2012-04-05, 08:05 PM

I think what Skitrel meant is that if you make a new thread to relink posted videos, you might as well link all the other ones, not just yours.

SuperMorto · 2012-04-05, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by Skitrel

Hmm, 4 threads. Very well, still though... Own content submissions make my skin crawl. Possibly a little bit conditioned by reddit on that one but still.

Well... please....for the love of god...... just stop posting. As your hindering a good attempt to show the "community" some good video footage. And to be fair I'm still not quite sure why?

SuperMorto · 2012-04-05, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by sylphaen

I think what Skitrel meant is that if you make a new thread to relink posted videos, you might as well link all the other ones, not just yours.

Sorry I may not of made this clear, I am in fact promoting my project a little. Just in case you didn't notice.

I hope you both think that is ok, if not be sure to let me know.....

SuperMorto · 2012-04-05, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by Skitrel

Hmm, 4 threads. Very well, still though... Own content submissions make my skin crawl. Possibly a little bit conditioned by reddit on that one but still.

I see a derailment incoming!!!

I'm trying to hold it on the tracks Hamma!!!!

I'm not sure I can!!!!

sylphaen · 2012-04-05, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by SuperMorto

I see a derailment incoming!!!

Nah, don't worry about any kind of derailment, I'm not here to shoot anyone down and I doubt Skit is either.

IMO, running a community-based project is a lot about being open and sharing with others and giving them opportunities to share with you.

Look at PSU, Hamma gave his heart to this project. He sacrificed a lot of time effort, resources to start and stick with his project. He stayed open all the time and that's why a lot of us love him and respect him. (no worries Jennyboo, I'm a guy

)

IMO, if you had started a thread to collect all the footage currently available along with yours, it would:
- have helped even more
- Skitrel wouldn't have jumped on your case

I can understand why Skit jumped on you. There is revenue associated to linking videos and # of people watching them so posting only your vids feels very much like leaching.

Kind of like how some website took PS2 exclusive images from PSU for their website and did not credit PSU (correct me if I'm mistaken, Hamma).

As a general rule of thumb, give credit where credit is due, respect the people and they will return the favor.

By the way, I do not post this to flame you. You are a very enthusiastic guy and it's a cool idea to centralize known media content in a single post. It could have been done better though but hey, everyone makes mistakes. So no biggie.

EDIT: for instance, would you mind adding this to your post ?
http://www.gametrailers.com/game/planetside-2/15161

Zulthus · 2012-04-05, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by sylphaen

Nah, don't worry about any kind of derailment, I'm not here to shoot anyone down and I doubt Skit is either.

IMO, running a community-based project is a lot about being open and sharing with others and giving them opportunities to share with you.

Look at PSU, Hamma gave his heart to this project. He sacrificed a lot of time effort, resources to start and stick with his project. He stayed open all the time and that's why a lot of us love him and respect him. (no worries Jennyboo, I'm a guy

)

IMO, if you had started a thread to collect all the footage currently available along with yours, it would:
- have helped even more
- Skitrel wouldn't have jumped on your case

I can understand why Skit jumped on you. There is revenue associated to linking videos and # of people watching them so posting only your vids feels very much like leaching.

Kind of like how some website took PS2 exclusive images from PSU for their website and did not credit PSU (correct me if I'm mistaken, Hamma).

As a general rule of thumb, give credit where credit is due, respect the people and they will return the favor.

By the way, I do not post this to flame you. You are a very enthusiastic guy and it's a cool idea to centralize known media content in a single post. It could have been done better though but hey, everyone makes mistakes. So no biggie.

EDIT: for instance, would you mind adding this to your post ?
http://www.gametrailers.com/game/planetside-2/15161

Just wanted to jump in and say, there is no revenue for anyone unless you have been accepted as a partner of youtube. (if that's what you're talking about)

Skitrel · 2012-04-05, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by SuperMorto

Well... please....for the love of god...... just stop posting. As your hindering a good attempt to show the "community" some good video footage. And to be fair I'm still not quite sure why?

My posting bumps your thread. Relax Morto, it's all groovy. If I might make a suggestion, promotion to the PS2 community isn't going to be something you're going to have to do much of, unless a competive streaming site appears that is, and even then you've got your foot in the door first and people are ALWAYS more interested in what's first.

May I suggest an alternative? Your success hinges directly on the success of the game. Now, I'm not sure, but you don't seem to have a business/marketing background whereas I do, so indulge me a few thoughts.

What you ought to be doing is using your position as a streaming site to promote the game to the potential target audiences of PS2. Now, most obviously that's probably Battlefield 3 players, but it really stands as pretty much all fps players.

What I would do in your position is use market research as a means of promotion, you mention you're setting up a streaming site for Planetside 2 to various communities, drop some PS2 footage in there (not the 45 minute ones, yawn, tl;dr, it doesn't help much), and then ask people for their opinions of streaming services, the good the bad and the ugly, and what they think a service should and shouldn't do/be.

Presentation is key of course, it's all about friendly demeanour. It's all about being likable. I've mentioned this to you before, the owner IS the site(or business) until a site's team grows to the tipping point where it becomes a brand, though that creates a barrier between site and community and should always be avoided at all costs. Anyway, presentation, it's all about being likable, friendly, making smart intelligent points. Above all though the important issue is ethics, get labelled unethical(or unlikeable) and it's all over, at least for the community that labels you such.

After foot in the door with the market research (which also promoted and brought many people into the game), you have the opportunity to cater to those particular audiences while promoting yourself. Provided you presented yourself well in the first promotion you should be in good standing with the community so you're then able to easily make a success of the next promotion, that promotion should of course be doing something for that community, so let's say it's the BF3 community of reddit, well what you do is set up an event involving that community, get people on board with it, and stream it for them, showing off the tech lalala, all the while this is promoting PS2 to that audience.

Same goes for the MW crowd. Same goes for the TF2 crowd. Same goes for the Tribes crowd. Same goes for the CS crowd. Same goes for even the Starcraft crowd, which of all of them should be the first port of call as they're the gods and knowledge of all that is streaming in the end, and in terms of your audience they encapsulate the kinds of people that enjoy watching streams, so they're important.

After all that? Well it really depends on which communities you see success with, you then cater and continue working with them. Beneficially after the initial "research" phase you don't have to mention PS2 unless asked because it's in the business name, so you're promoting to them anyway, they'll google it.

In short. "Market research", promoting PS2 within > Individual streaming of content based on activities set up with them > Catered content based on successes

The key is all in research though, know the community before addressing them, not taking the time to learn what the community is like, what their etiquette is, what the faux pas' are and so on is a very, very bad idea.

I just feel like you're preaching to the choir a little bit here. Even if there's some new folks, it's not a huge number yet, and in terms of value content to show off to them there's not much until you get beta access, and it really depends on whether you're allowed to produce content from the beta too.

EDIT: Zulthus, ah yes, but in order to get partnership you've got to rake in those views, none-partnered youtube channels that are promoting themselves aren't exempt from the concept of it being for revenue.

sylphaen · 2012-04-05, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by Zulthus

Just wanted to jump in and say, there is no revenue for anyone unless you have been accepted as a partner of youtube. (if that's what you're talking about)

Yes, that's what I meant.

I don't upload video content so I don't know all the details. Thanks for the clarification !

sylphaen · 2012-04-05, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by Skitrel

My posting bumps [...] the beta too.

Plenty of good feedback there.

Edit: and to be honest, I'm actually quite surprised. Usually, Skit can be a loooot more... Blunt ?

Of course, you'll never get grilled as with Firefly who would burn you alive with kerosene on the spot but Skit usually is quite... knacky.

Anyways, I'm glad to see he can provide great feedback when he is not clubbing someone to dust with PS TR HA armorfists.

Skitrel · 2012-04-05, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by sylphaen

Plenty of good feedback there.

Edit: and to be honest, I'm actually quite surprised. Usually, Skit can be a loooot more... Blunt ?

Of course, you'll never get grilled as with Firefly who would burn you alive with kerosene on the spot but Skit usually is quite... knacky.

Anyways, I'm glad to see he can provide great feedback when he is not clubbing someone to dust with PS TR HA armorfists.

I haven't had anything to drink tonight, I'm a lot more malleable and my patience is a little stronger. I was still fairly blunt though, compared with Americans I believe, just put it down to being British. We're clearly all cunts.

sylphaen · 2012-04-05, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by Skitrel

I haven't had anything to drink tonight, I'm a lot more malleable and my patience is a little stronger. I was still fairly blunt though, compared with Americans I believe, just put it down to being British. We're clearly all cunts.

Well, it's still necessary sometimes. That's why I particularly like when Firefly posts.

He does not post often but when he does, Lord, do things get entertaining !

Anyways, just wanted to tell you something because I felt that I kind of wrongly judged you based on some of your interventions. Kind of like Malorn (to a lesser extent though).

It definitely takes time to know others better but I'm glad to see you are not a complete jerk !

Don't post like this too often though, your outfit has a rep to defend and if you keep going like that, you may make The Enclave look like a place for good samaritans.