"Suicide" buttons and means to suicide.

[Ruffdog]

No
It's kill stealing and lamer than the Phoenix.
Simply allow "instant action"

[Knocky]

Originally Posted by Ruffdog

No
It's kill stealing and lamer than the cloaker that has his way with the Phoenix driver while he is frozen like a statue.
Simply allow "instant action"

Fixed your post....no need to thank me.

[EVILPIG]

/suicide was removed because it is lame when you are trying to kill someone and they just kill themself. It was only in the Beta in case you got stuck.

[Sirisian]

I'm fine with a /recall given say a 5 second counter. Was kind of annoying in PS1 having to use punisher grenades to kill yourself.

Also the game isn't really about getting kills. It's not like someone recalling messes with your k/d. You pushed the player back.

[Blackwolf]

I say no only because chances are we'll have recall.

Personally I don't give a rats ass if they suicide to deny me the kill. They still lost the fight and I still won it, which is all that's important to me.

Don't understand this retarded obsession with a single number. Seems to me that the only people who ought to obsess over that lost kill are the ones who don't get enough in the first place.

[Raymac]

Let's face it, suiciding was mostly use to rob an opponent of a kill. I don't like it. Obviously there needs to be a "Recall to Foothold" mechanic, but killing yourself to rob someone of a kill is pathetic.

[Destroyeron]

I'm just hoping we can stick BOOMERs to MAXs.

[Knocky]

Originally Posted by Destroyeron

I'm just hoping we can stick BOOMERs to MAXs.

They already said we can stick em on the backs of MAXes.

Don't know if that means that is the only place on a MAX we can stick them, or if they mean that we will mostly be sneaking up behind them.

[Fenrys]

There should be a way to avoid long jogs. If it takes the form of a no-grenade suicide option, so be it, but it should not be fast enough to rob someone of a kill.

[Malorn]

You have to allow boomers and grenades as suicide options, otherwise you have people abusing them by running up next to someone, dropping them and immediately detonating, using the no-suicide mechanic to avoid damage.

The only reason to deny someone the ability to suicide is so they can't be spiteful and intentionally suicide to avoid dying by someone else's hands. This may be lame, but it isn't an epidemic, and it certainly isn't worth the lameness that would result if your own grenades did no damage to you.

The value of suicide is allowing people the opportunity to quickly travel when they might be stuck out in the middle of nowhere. Recall is a great solution for this. And if you allow recall then allowing someone to kill themselves with a boomer or grenade is really no big deal.

So again we're back to the PS1 model, which worked fine.

Recall to the foothold - anytime but maybe have a 5-10 second countdown, interruptable by damage.

Suicide by grenade and boomer permissible because if you don't it'll be abused.

There you go.

[Raymac]

Originally Posted by Malorn

Suicide by grenade and boomer permissible because if you don't it'll be abused.

That is an angle I hadn't thought of. Good point.

[Eyeklops]

Having the ability suicide is critical in denying the lowly, undeserving enemy scum of your kill. It is extremely honorable to selflessly take your life in order to deny making the enemy more powerful. Good deeds like these done in the name of the great Vanu Sovereignty should be rewarded with experience points, reduced spawn timer, and resource bonuses.

[EVILPIG]

Originally Posted by Eyeklops

Good deeds like these done in the name of the great Vanu Sovereignty should be rewarded with experience points, reduced spawn timer, and resource bonuses.

I think you're confusing these things with latex, cucumbers and Crisko.

[NewSith]

Originally Posted by Malorn

You have to allow boomers and grenades as suicide options, otherwise you have people abusing them by running up next to someone, dropping them and immediately detonating, using the no-suicide mechanic to avoid damage.

The only reason to deny someone the ability to suicide is so they can't be spiteful and intentionally suicide to avoid dying by someone else's hands. This may be lame, but it isn't an epidemic, and it certainly isn't worth the lameness that would result if your own grenades did no damage to you.

The value of suicide is allowing people the opportunity to quickly travel when they might be stuck out in the middle of nowhere. Recall is a great solution for this. And if you allow recall then allowing someone to kill themselves with a boomer or grenade is really no big deal.

So again we're back to the PS1 model, which worked fine.

Recall to the foothold - anytime but maybe have a 5-10 second countdown, interruptable by damage.

Suicide by grenade and boomer permissible because if you don't it'll be abused.

There you go.

Wait a second....

Is this a counter-statement or something? Because I don't see anyone saying that you shouldn't be able to die to your own grenades...

[Ruffdog]

Originally Posted by Knocky

Fixed your post....no need to thank me.

Typical damn rebels! You can count on them to twist the Republic's words