Killcam/Deployment/Revive Screens Idea

SurgeonX · 2012-06-02, 09:54 PM

Following on from Higby's tweet on the newly designed Killcam screen, and his comments about expanding this to include waiting/respawning...

Originally Posted by Higby

Do you guys want to have a "Wait"/"Respawn now" choice on this screen, maybe with a count of near by friendly medics so you can choose if you want to wait for one or not. We were talking about having something like that, I think it could be cool. Right now it just dismisses after a few seconds and the respawn point selection interface comes up.

I started knocking up a design to see if it would be possible to bring together the new Killcam design, some elements of the Deploy screen and some features around reviving.

And this is what I've ended up with as of tonight...

This design brings together the following features:

Revive options

We need a medic! button

Clicking this button sends out a request to be revived, allowing medics to see you on the mini-map, how far away you are and how long left is on your deployment timer.

Ideally this would also send out a mission request. This is to help the fallen player know whether or not someone is coming to the rescue.

Auto-request checkbox

When you die, having this box checked automatically sends out a revive request.

Closest medics list

The five closest medics to your position, and how far away they are.
Medics who haven't accepted a revive mission request are listed in green.
Once a medic accepts the revive mission, their list seleciton turns red as does their medic indicator on the map view.

Selected loadout

A quick rundown of what weapons you have in your loadout, and most importantly, how much ammo you have.
Should hopefully prevent that annoying scenario where you are rezzed, but have no ammo left.

Deployment

Auto deploy timer

The auto deploy timer starts counting down as soon as you die, as is currently specced in the PS2 gameplay videos.

Deployment pause button

Pause the auto deployment to your selected respawn point.
Giving you control of when you want to be respawned, and to give medics more time to get to you.

Deployment locations

As in the current builds, lists any available spawn points and how far away they are.

Map view

Now includes glyphs to denote where the Closest Medics are.
The glyphs turn red when a medic accepts your revive request.

Spawn as

No changes here, this is currently part of the main Deploy screen.

There's a mini prototype here with the deployment timer counting down, and a working 'We need a medic!' button.
The pause button changes states, but I haven't programmed it in to affect the timer.

http://www.craig-lea.co.uk/PS2/Respawn.html

Whalenator · 2012-06-02, 09:58 PM

All of these ideas sound superb.
As an Arma 2 player, having the injured preassigned to medics is a must.

bullet · 2012-06-02, 10:31 PM

Eh, I would rather have a separate screen after you accepted to respawn where you could pick your spawn point, pick your class and then customize it. It just seems a bit too cluttered that way. The medic notification is definitely an improvement and I think Higby said they were already working on that.

IMMentat · 2012-06-02, 11:19 PM

Ditch the auto-select and "need a medic button" dead people should be visible in their own way to medics and there's nothimg more annoying that people spamming rez me macro's while enemies are teabagging them for being overextended.

Otherwise I like it.
When you said autospawning do you mean deconstruct and go straight into a respawn tube? If you did then i'm somewhat against this, a timer to prevent medic rez is fine by me but forcing someone back onto the field when not ready seems harsh (planetside had a forced back to sanctuary after 2? minutes dead, something like this would be reasonable but not live combat forced-spawning).

MacXXcaM · 2012-06-03, 02:06 AM

Nice work! I like

Roy Awesome · 2012-06-03, 02:18 AM

That's rather sexy

Razicator · 2012-06-03, 02:21 AM

Other than the auto-revive me request, perfect!

Though maybe from the MEDIC's point of view, a one-button way to accept a revive request? Maybe point your revive tool at a corpse far away allows you to hit a button that means you're going to revive him next? So that there's no clumsy mission menu for the medic to go through.

HELL maybe even show a small window of the MEDIC who accepted your revive me mission, kind of like the old kill cam (seeing the guy moving)? This is so you can see where he is and where he is moving, and if he's actually headed your way? The window would be the size of the minimap, though where would you put this...

Jinxsey · 2012-06-03, 02:27 AM

As others have said, so long as you can't spam a "call for medic" button to annoy folks this looks very solid.

I'd also suggest going with the "auto-asign to closest medic" option. With multiple medics able to accept missions for the same person and perhpas the closes five or so being included.

The "accept mission" mechanic can be as easy as pointing your crosshair at the medic symbol overlayed on the corpse on your view and pressing an "action" key.

Dagron · 2012-06-03, 04:08 AM

Very nice. It doesn't feel too cluttered to me... in the heat of battle it may be a little confusing at first, but after you see it a couple of times it'll probably be fine.

I do agree with this though:

Originally Posted by IMMentat

... there's nothimg more annoying that people spamming rez me macro's while enemies are teabagging them for being overextended.

SurgeonX · 2012-06-04, 06:13 AM

Repeatedly spamming to be revived would definitely be annoying.
I'd see that button as a one off action.

Originally Posted by Razicator

HELL maybe even show a small window of the MEDIC who accepted your revive me mission, kind of like the old kill cam (seeing the guy moving)? This is so you can see where he is and where he is moving, and if he's actually headed your way? The window would be the size of the minimap, though where would you put this...

That's a really cool idea.
I guess the mini map panel could fulfil this role.
So once a medic has accepted your revive request, and their medic icon has changed to red, you could click on the medic icon on the mini map and then it would show you a 1str person shot of them making their way to you.

Originally Posted by IMMentat

When you said autospawning do you mean deconstruct and go straight into a respawn tube? If you did then i'm somewhat against this, a timer to prevent medic rez is fine by me but forcing someone back onto the field when not ready seems harsh (planetside had a forced back to sanctuary after 2? minutes dead, something like this would be reasonable but not live combat forced-spawning).

I would see the deployment working exactly as it does in the videos now.
When you die the deploy timer starts counting down automatically, and it will re-deploy you to whichever spawn point you currently have selected when it reaches zero.
Based on Higby's question, you could therefore use the pause button to prevent the timer ticking away and stop yourself from being respawned.

berzerkerking · 2012-06-04, 08:46 PM

great suggestion props for creativity.

Anderz · 2012-06-05, 04:03 AM

This is great. Being able to see and request medic's on the map would be a big bonus to teamplay.

What if you could not only see the nearby medics on the map, but actually actually talk (via VoIP) to one of them too, directly requesting a revive? Could be a cert ability, perhaps. Could be quite spammy, I admit, but just a thought.

Immigrant · 2012-06-06, 07:56 PM

Great idea, Medic button definitely something I would like to see implemented.

SurgeonX · 2012-06-08, 08:11 AM

Cheers for the feedback gents, glad youse like it

Originally Posted by Anderz

What if you could not only see the nearby medics on the map, but actually actually talk (via VoIP) to one of them too, directly requesting a revive? Could be a cert ability, perhaps. Could be quite spammy, I admit, but just a thought.

VOIP'ing medics is a pretty cool idea.
I've added this into the prototype, to see what it could be like, but at the moment only for medics who've accepted your revive request.
I'll see about extending it across to all medics, so you can request a revive via VOIP.

I've added in a couple more things into this prototype too.

When a medic has requested your revive request, you can see their point of view in place of the map in Medic View.
Either click on the red bar under Closest Medics, or click on the red Medic icon from the map.

Click the Comms button to talk to them.

Click the arrow button to go back to the map.

I'll try adding some more stuff in when I get time.

It might be a bit slow initially loading.
And stuff may be off to the right if you are running at anything less that 1920...

http://www.craig-lea.co.uk/PS2/Respawn.html

Dagron · 2012-06-08, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by SurgeonX

VOIP'ing medics is a pretty cool idea.
I've added this into the prototype, to see what it could be like, but at the moment only for medics who've accepted your revive request.
I'll see about extending it across to all medics, so you can request a revive via VOIP.

All the medics could have their voice channel flooded if every dead player was auto connected to them like this.
Maybe the interface could only allow you to have one medic selected at a time (default to the closest one) to open a channel to, if one was busy you could switch to another to ask for a revive.

Originally Posted by SurgeonX

you can see their point of view in place of the map in Medic View

I guess it'd be fine, as long as it's their POV and not a 3rd person view... would be kind of lame having dead people warning medics not to turn the corner because a MAX was right there.