Anyone else not sure who to be "Loyal" to? ... - Page 7

Sabot · 2012-06-12, 05:29 AM

Here... drink the kool-aid. It'll calm you down.

Atmosfear · 2012-06-12, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by Malorn

Ungrateful splitters. TR united all of mankind in peace and prosperity, and now you want to throw all that away to be used by corporate greed veiled in the lie of "freedom"

Whoa, Elmo. Let's keep it real in here.

TR military generals rebelled against the Royal House of Auraxis and started this conflict in the first place. Those VS nut-jobs wouldn't be the threat they are if your leadership had stayed LOYAL to the royal family in the first place. For all your propaganda, you can't rewrite history nor undo the blood on your hands.

Those of us who served the Royal House of Auraxis in the Expeditionary Force years ago haven't forgotten the first treachery that took place. We may have been forced to ally ourselves with less savory individuals to restore the rightful heirs to the Vanu throne, but it's no greater a sin than the Terran Republic's original rebellion.

Atmosfear · 2012-06-12, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by Immigrant

The truth:

TR is an only legitimate representative of Earth's government determined in maintaining peace and order, fighting for the unification of human race against mislead bunch of idealist rebels and hardened criminals funded by corrupt power hungry corporations (see - NC) and extremist cult of fanatics determined to turn the humanity into race of living machine-like slaves by tempering with alien technology whose exact power and effect they don't truly know of (see - VS).

False.

The legitimacy of the Terran Republic ended when they rebelled against the divine authority of the Royal house of Auraxis. The TR continue to try and brand us as heartless corporations who seek nothing but control, when the truth is that one look at their military command structure shows them to already be guilty of the very sins they claim to loathe.

Truth? The Terran Republic can't handle the truth.

Immigrant · 2012-06-12, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by StealSky

False.

The legitimacy of the Terran Republic ended when they rebelled against the divine authority of the Royal house of Auraxis. The TR continue to try and brand us as heartless corporations who seek nothing but control, when the truth is that one look at their military command structure shows them to already be guilty of the very sins they claim to loathe.

Truth? The Terran Republic can't handle the truth.

Typical Vanu lies. There is no Royal House of Auraxis in PS2. Sorry. Seriously read this: http://www.planetside2.com/news/oct11Backstory

Originally Posted by Higby

With PlanetSide 2 we’re resetting the PlanetSide lore. Rather than a sequel, we call it a re-envisioning, or more accurately a re-imagining.

Vanu Techpriest · 2012-06-12, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by Canaris

I'll ask this again as so far no ones been able to answer me, if the Vanu were so mighty and great able to break the chains of death itself..... why are they all dead?
I'm guessing that all their inclusion of technology into the biology robbed them of their (we'd call it humanity) Vanuity and left nothing more than an insane echo that the VS now worship. The TR & NC don't really need to fight them to be honest, they'll wipe themselves out in due course but I won't sit by and be dragged to extinction with them.

The VS believe that the Vanu used the power of their advanced technologies to transcend their physical limitations and the mundane world, ascending to a superior state of being, and ultimately, a higher plane of existence.

Canaris · 2012-06-12, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by Vanu Techpriest

The VS believe that the Vanu used the power of their advanced technologies to transcend their physical limitations and the mundane world, ascending to a superior state of being, and ultimately, a higher plane of existence.

you know after reading this I went back to re-read the dossier on your messiah Briggs and I've come to a further conclusion that Vanu being an alien was probably more akin to a parasite than a humanoid alien, it infects a host and begins to spread to others, very cleverly to beings of superior intellect like scientists and doctors in order to spread as quickly as possible across a species and prevent it being discovered and eradicated. You all have brain worms!

Khrusky · 2012-06-12, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by Canaris

you know after reading this I went back to re-read the dossier on your messiah Briggs and I've come to a further conclusion that Vanu being an alien was probably more akin to a parasite than a humanoid alien, it infects a host and begins to spread to others, very cleverly to beings of superior intellect like scientists and doctors in order to spread as quickly as possible across a species and prevent it being discovered and eradicated. You all have brain worms!

Ratstomper · 2012-06-12, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by Khrusky

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Sounds about right.

The Janitor · 2012-06-12, 12:00 PM

I'll probably have a character from each faction and stick with whichever one I find a cool Outfit for. Gonna need a group of fun people to go blow stuff up with.

Mister Morden · 2012-06-12, 12:44 PM

TR or Vanu, but i really dislike the hovertank of vanu so it seems im going to fight for the TR.

Vorgan · 2012-06-12, 12:54 PM

My main was Vanu for the longest time, but I the new lore and the way my mindset has shifted since I was 13 (when PS1 came out) has changed my loyalties. My new character will be NC. I'm in favor of a strong federal government that doesn't get hampered by an inefficient system, but in no way can I support superseding the free-market system.

Regulating corporations is one thing. Taking them over and incorporating them into the state is another thing entirely, and goes against the rights and freedoms of all those involved with that corporation (the shareholders, the owners, the workers, and the consumers). Corporations are what drive growth. When an authoritarian state takes them over for its own ends, it's far easier for corruption to spread unchecked.

The VS also seem to lack anything resembling government oversight. The TR has an overreaching government that infringes on individual liberties; the VS want to advance regardless of risks. The NC seem like logical and compassionate capitalists who genuinely want what's best for the people on Earth and Auraxis, economically and socially.

That, and their technology is fucking awesome

Xyntech · 2012-06-12, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by Vorgan

logical and compassionate capitalists who genuinely want what's best for the people on Earth and Auraxis, economically and socially.

NC confirmed for more brainwashed than even us VS.

Canaris · 2012-06-12, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by Xyntech

NC confirmed for more brainwashed than even us VS.

I didn't think it was possible but there we have it

lol

musefrog · 2012-06-12, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by Vorgan

My main was Vanu for the longest time, but I the new lore and the way my mindset has shifted since I was 13 (when PS1 came out) has changed my loyalties. My new character will be NC. I'm in favor of a strong federal government that doesn't get hampered by an inefficient system, but in no way can I support superseding the free-market system.

Regulating corporations is one thing. Taking them over and incorporating them into the state is another thing entirely, and goes against the rights and freedoms of all those involved with that corporation (the shareholders, the owners, the workers, and the consumers). Corporations are what drive growth. When an authoritarian state takes them over for its own ends, it's far easier for corruption to spread unchecked.

The VS also seem to lack anything resembling government oversight. The TR has an overreaching government that infringes on individual liberties; the VS want to advance regardless of risks. The NC seem like logical and compassionate capitalists who genuinely want what's best for the people on Earth and Auraxis, economically and socially.

That, and their technology is fucking awesome

Oh come on, don't start making this about real world capitalism versus socialism; with my loathing of American free-market-worship you'll drive me back towards the TR again!

Rexdezi · 2012-06-12, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by DerFurst

You miss the point. The Vanu are transhumanists, not fools indoctrinated by alien artifacts. The Vanu offer to rid humans of their weaknesses through technological enhancement while still retaining our identity. We haven't become a singular homogenous entity like some might believe. We've simply learned how to work past our differences, and learn from the varied opinions of others instead of rejecting them. While the Vanu appear to be zealots, we're no different than anyone that shares an ideal. The NC and the TR are zealots in their own rights. It's understandable that you don't share the same vision that we do. No one can convince you that our way isn't just one of many existing dogmas. You will not fully comprehend what we are unless you have experienced our view. We have all lived your lives and know what you are. If we knew what we came from and know what we are now, don't you think we would have gone back if what we were doing was wrong? The only thing separating you from the Vanu is your assumption that we are wrong. Once again, we can't prove you wrong. We can only hope you come to our understanding.

it is our imperfections that make us unique. if everyone was perfect we'd all be exactly the same, and thats no fun. id rather keep my imperfections and be me, rather than lose them and myself in the process. humanity isnt perfect, were not supposed to be. screw the vanu and screw there ideologies. unless they have marajuana... then sign me up :3