I would like to know What a planetside players do not want to copy and paste of Ps1 ? - Page 3

MrMorton · 2012-06-14, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by Stew

Actually i would like to know who in here as ps1 player do not want a copyy and past of ps1

i already have heard all the ps1 copy and paste begging for the last 4 months

back in the day ive ask if ps1 actual players were going to hate on the game because it was not going to be a copy and paste of planetside one

i got as a answer we are not hermite who never played other shooter because we have play planetside 1

but after GDC i saw the compleate opposite most of the time ! Please ps1 clone ps2 is to much a bf clone wich is wrong anyway lol

I don't understand the bolded parts........

so either this is a very sophisticated troll ensnaring wary forum goers to make a post saying "wtf"

or this person just speaks very poor english and thinks the ps1 vets want a clone of ps2.........

if the latter I would suggest actually looking at any reactions to ps2 on the forum? i guess?

dyslecix · 2012-06-14, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by MrMorton

I don't understand the bolded parts........

so either this is a very sophisticated troll ensnaring wary forum goers to make a post saying "wtf"

or this person just speaks very poor english and thinks the ps1 vets want a clone of ps2.........

if the latter I would suggest actually looking at any reactions to ps2 on the forum? i guess?

Read my post, I used Google Translate from idiot to english, you should be able to understand it.

FuzzyandBlue · 2012-06-14, 12:59 PM

I am not a PS1 vet but have been playing FPSs' for a long time. I really don't understand the hate for Modern shooter mechanics. I went and watched some PS1 videos and live streams to get a look at the game, and frankly it looked awful even by 2003 standards.

There were a lot of amazing and genre defining games that came around the same time as PS1. Halo, Half Life and Call of Duty (the first one) are good examples. All of these games are still popular today.

Now I'm not saying that PS1 was a bad game, again never played it, but I can say for sure that an hd remake of PS1 would flop horribly. Not because every one wants easy games today, so devs have to take the skill out of games. But because the mechanics used in PS1, for the most part, are outdated and clumsy.

I'm way excited about this game and how its looking even in its current state.

Hope to see you on the battlefield. NC for life.

Gandhi · 2012-06-14, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by FuzzyandBlue

Now I'm not saying that PS1 was a bad game, again never played it, but I can say for sure that an hd remake of PS1 would flop horribly.

Everyone on this board agrees with you. Stew's post was aimed at a fictional group of people that he made up to have something to argue about, I believe they call that a straw man.

QuantumMechanic · 2012-06-14, 01:11 PM

I am a PS1 vet since release day. And I just re-subscribed (yet again) a few weeks ago and am having lots of fun.

I am also quite looking forward to many of the new things and changes that are in PS2. You won't know if it's fun or not until you try it.

Doesn't Stew basically create this same thread every week? I can't tell what's different about this one (assuming there is a diffference).

GhettoPrince · 2012-06-14, 02:10 PM

Yeah, exactly, anyone who wants to see why Planetside 2 is not a graphics updated remake of Planetside, just watch the streams for 2 minutes. It was amazing for its time, but it's painfully awful by any modern standard.

BattsTR · 2012-06-14, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by SKYeXile

Thats not really my concern, TB is known in PS1 for attempting to lobotomise the game, he has over 10000 posts, with 200 threads created, most of them are pretaining to nerfing something or changing this. He got some of them through to, didn't stick around watch the turd cook in the sun though, game became crap, so he was out, yo!

And im not just talking about surge nerf, that was broken, but i dont know about going out of my way making videos about it, spreading alot of BS about it saying its amplified like heaps in a real environment...discounting the fact he's shooting...? at a agile surging with his weapon holstered while deliberately missing shots because he's holding down the fucking trigger and not even aiming.

I have a similar opinion. I remember the constant whining by many players about some of the truly fun things Planetside had to offer. It would pain me to know that some of those same 5 deaths for every 1 kill people could have substantial input in the new game. Surge specifically was broken, with the warping and all, buuut it really was simple as shooting the target, whether it be in front of you or touching the ceiling. Even though I got my ass handed to me early on in that game I got better, I didn't see the need to cry about it like many people do. These are the same people who whine about getting skeeter farmed yet they are running across a forest with zero air cover and no teammates.

MrBloodworth · 2012-06-14, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by FuzzyandBlue

I really don't understand the hate for Modern shooter mechanics.

Its not the modern shooter mechanics that are the issue.

The the lack of the War game aspects, and degradation of team play requirements.

People keep using "modern shooter" as a hand wave.

Wahooo · 2012-06-14, 02:43 PM

How is it in all the threads like this that:

"Well I never played but saw some videos and it looks bad"

always gets posted like it is somehow a valid argument?

Chronic · 2012-06-14, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by EVILoHOMER

I've read that title over and over and it doesn't make sense.

Are there any PS1 vets in the forum who don't wan't a direct copy&paste of PS1? Are there any PS1 vets happy with the way PS2 is turning out?

Iron sights and BLOODY SCREEN SO REAL are the only things I see related CoD... Capture points and vehicles are the only things I see related to BF...

Gamers these days are suffering from what I call "CoDification phobia".

GreatMazinkaise · 2012-06-14, 02:51 PM

They just need a new phrase to toss out rather than BF3 or CoD... my suggestion is Generic Modern Shooter, which covers all the blandness that saturates the current market.

We do not want a copypasta Planetside 1, but we don't want Generic Modern Shooter: MMO Edition either... this includes a preference for mechanics that encourage dueling over ganking and a general preference for macro level strategy meaning something.

GMS mechanics are not good because they're newer, they're just the only thing that anyone has access to.

FuzzyandBlue · 2012-06-14, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by elfailo

People hate it because it's become almost a monopoly thanks to the expansion of the console market. Everyone's doing the same, sticking to the same formula because it's popular. For developers it's a safe bet; Try something new and it might fail, or stick with what everyone's familiar with, and at best be called unoriginal.

It's one of those things holding back the evolution of PC gaming in particular, which could have been miles further years ago.

Good point this is something that drives me nuts. Hadn't really thought of it in this context though.

ArmedZealot · 2012-06-14, 04:09 PM

What the hell is this thread?

wasdie · 2012-06-14, 04:12 PM

Stop trying to make the world so black and white. You can have a combination of the gameplay found in Planetside with modern mechanics.

SUBARU · 2012-06-14, 04:19 PM

Things I would like copied but not just pasted

1.Some kind of walls around all bases.Why would somebody build a base that needs to be defended and doesnt use walls???
2.How about some doors,not doorways.Really,how is a team going to defend a control point ,when all the attackers have to do is throw some granades in
3. Slower TTK. fast TTK = who ever gets the drop on someone,they will win that fight. Slower TTK better skilled player has a good chance to win if somenoe gets the drop on him. Skill should matter. I died lots of time in PS1 to better skilled players. Even when I shot first and was behind them. Fast TTK I would have smoked him.
4 Enter /Exit anmation. All of the PS1 player made movies would have been less enjoyable if it didnt have the anmation.

I like all the DEVs and im happy they are making PS2,But when they say Bigger Is Better.They dont really mean it the way we hear it.
With no lattice system ,the figths wont be as big as we think.They will be spread out.There was a reason the lattice was put in PS1and a reason why they took it out for PS2. (I dont know if this is good or bad)
If i remember my PS1 history the lattice system was a player idea

P.s Im sure i will like the game as long as I get to kill some VS,and TR