Dear Devs, Please make a Certs Calculator

UnDeAdKiTtY · 2012-06-23, 08:35 PM

I hope other people support me on this.

I don't care if the values are accurate.

I don't care if they are not all in there or complete

Please I beg you put up a list of certs that we can see per class and get an idea of what we can work towards to get an idea on what classes people want to play.

Anything like this pretty please with sugar on top.

Edit: with the ability to look at load-outs and such.

GrayWave · 2012-06-23, 08:47 PM

I want to agree with you. I really do. But part of me worries that putting one up even for beta would bring about creating cookie-cutter "everyone starts with this and this and this, why the hell didn't you take this, you can't just cert what you want" builds and mentalities around them.

Bags · 2012-06-23, 08:48 PM

Yeah, WoW has something like this for Talents, it's nice.

TAA · 2012-06-23, 08:51 PM

Isnt this something that will get created by fans within days anyway?

zomg · 2012-06-23, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by TAA

Isnt this something that will get created by fans within days anyway?

Sure but having a list is easier than having to manually write everything down from the game UI

Papscal · 2012-06-23, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by TAA

Isnt this something that will get created by fans within days anyway?

Someone had to say it.

GreatMazinkaise · 2012-06-23, 09:05 PM

I too wouldn't mind seeing a huge info dump of this sort, but that'd require them telling us stuff that they don't feel like revealing at the moment.

PS2 has LOTS of moving parts at the character level compared to some of the games it's copying, which should be interesting.

Dougnifico · 2012-06-23, 09:08 PM

I second this. Perhaps to go along with the Android/iCrap app. That way you can do it on your computer or on the go. I would totally understand waiting for launch though.

Worst case scenario, I'm sure a third party will make one. I just think it would be great with the app.

UnDeAdKiTtY · 2012-06-23, 09:14 PM

Please bump this thread so can we demand to see the goodies!

Vamoozi · 2012-06-23, 09:19 PM

I would like it.

Wayside · 2012-06-23, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by GrayWave

I want to agree with you. I really do. But part of me worries that putting one up even for beta would bring about creating cookie-cutter "everyone starts with this and this and this, why the hell didn't you take this, you can't just cert what you want" builds and mentalities around them.

I think thats going to happen regardless. The lack of an official calculator is a trivial matter. I have no doubt that we'll see a day when an outfit is formed that only accepts members who conform to "approved" builds. How quickly and to what degree that reality sets in will depend on how well Higby and company design the certs and equipment in PS2.

Competitive gamers naturally gravitate towards Min/Maxing their builds in games like these. They want to be as effective as possible and that's understandable.

My 2c.

Pillar of Armor · 2012-06-23, 09:37 PM

Idk, coming from eve... there wasn't a single skill tree build that beat all others. Different corporations (equivalent of outfits) had their own requirements, but you just had to find the corp that fit your style. Same thing will probably happen in PS2...

I'm for the cert calc!

Dougnifico · 2012-06-23, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by Wayside

I think thats going to happen regardless. The lack of an official calculator is a trivial matter. I have no doubt that we'll see a day when an outfit is formed that only accepts members who conform to "approved" builds. How quickly and to what degree that reality sets in will depend on how well Higby and company design the certs and equipment in PS2.

Competitive gamers naturally gravitate towards Min/Maxing their builds in games like these. They want to be as effective as possible and that's understandable.

My 2c.

Maybe that's why you're stuck with the certs you choose...

Wayside · 2012-06-23, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by Dougnifico

Maybe that's why you're stuck with the certs you choose...

Are you? I've been wondering about that. Haven't yet seen or heard a solid answer from the devs.

But even if it's been spoken to already, I'd be surprised if there wasn't a respec function by the time this game goes live. Or shortly thereafter. Even if its on a heavy cool-down or available only through the micro-transaction system.

GreatMazinkaise · 2012-06-23, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by Wayside

Are you? I've been wondering about that. Haven't yet seen or heard a solid answer from the devs.

But even if it's been spoken to already, I'd be surprised if there wasn't a respec function by the time this game goes live. Or shortly thereafter. Even if its on a heavy cool-down or available only through the micro-transaction system.

Higby has stated that he thinks the cert point acquisition time is such that buying a cert is no big deal. Want another one? Grind some more... grind... grind... grind...