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Old 2012-06-24, 01:31 AM   [Ignore Me] #31
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Re: Dear Devs, Please make a Certs Calculator


Originally Posted by Sephirex View Post
Planetside 2 - Dual Commentary Livestream with Matt Higby and TotalBiscuit - YouTube

It's at 1:50.

I believe when he said 10 minutes, he meant online play. Otherwise you'd have 144 cert points a day, every day.
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He did say some would take hundreds of points... but ya, it'll probably be a bit slower.
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Old 2012-06-24, 02:48 AM   [Ignore Me] #32
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Re: Dear Devs, Please make a Certs Calculator


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I wonder if each class will have its own certs, like if i collect 20 cert points playing as engineer, would they carry over to the medic class. I guess they would because that would probably annoy people.
I always assumed you spent cert points and then they were gone. So, if you earned a cert point and unlocked an engineer ability with it, then that's it. I don't think there's a 'common pool' of cert points that you get to spend differently for every class.
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Old 2012-06-24, 02:52 AM   [Ignore Me] #33
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I hope everyone in this thread knows that every player can acquire every certification all at once if they have put themselves through enough grind. A cert calculator, thus, is quite useless because you don't lose anything but time for putting in a cert.
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Old 2012-06-24, 03:01 AM   [Ignore Me] #34
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The opposite could also be said, if you don't have the time to get every cert, having a cert calculator could be invaluable since it would allow you to be sure to get all the ones you want.

Also having a VR room to test everything would also make the Cert system a lot easier by allowing player to really test each cert combination available to them from point to point so they can be better sure achieve the outcome they desired.
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Old 2012-06-24, 03:06 AM   [Ignore Me] #35
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Re: Dear Devs, Please make a Certs Calculator


Originally Posted by AThreatToYou View Post
I hope everyone in this thread knows that every player can acquire every certification all at once if they have put themselves through enough grind. A cert calculator, thus, is quite useless because you don't lose anything but time for putting in a cert.
Time is money.
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Old 2012-06-24, 03:22 AM   [Ignore Me] #36
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They're working on an app that they call a library of the game, with all the info in it.
I'd be very surprised if a cert calculator wasn't in there. It might even have this little screen that adds up all the bonus % that you unlocked per thing, who knows?
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Old 2012-06-24, 05:32 AM   [Ignore Me] #37
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Re: Dear Devs, Please make a Certs Calculator


Dev provided talent calcs: Theoretically more accurate, faster updates and more stability. I'd prefer an in-house one as I know it'll always be there and never on sites with questionable ad banners.

Min/Max requirements: If EVE is any marker, there -will- be groups with requirements. However, it'll be a mix of basic competencies and specialist paths based on outfit specialization. They may want everyone to have 80% completion in some basic overall certs (if they exist) or, if you're joining for a specific role, then a percentage of completion in certs to support that role. Build requirements not only provide a statistical baseline, they also show a commitment to the game and/or specific roles.

Just as there will be specialist outfits with high bars (EVE wormhole corps have some crazy requirements but they're necessary, too) there will be low-req and no-req outfits as well. If someone wants to get into outfits with specific reqs, that's their business. There will be alternatives.

And have no doubt, there will be outfits that require specific gear packages for your standard loadouts as well. While I believe there are arguments to be made for mods that make gross alterations in functionality (What do you mean you can't slot AA turrets?), some will take it too far. Just the nature of players. There will be those that, like in WoW, for example, quibble over literal 1% variances but they won't be the majority. They'll probably have a lot of clout but people who are that anal usually put a ton of hours into games and are generally good so combine lots of public presence with high success rate. Still, minority.
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Old 2012-06-24, 06:01 AM   [Ignore Me] #38
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Re: Dear Devs, Please make a Certs Calculator


in other games i use cert or skill calculators to check how i have to level out my skills to get the maximum of the skills i need before the levelcap takes effect.

there is no levelcap like it was in ps1 (pre br40) or like there is in most other games.
everything can be unlocked, the cap is just on equipping the unlocked things together.

so a cert-calculator would only make sense, if its showing the time and ressources needed to build up some certconfigurations.

by the way, matt already said, that the phone-apps will include full wikis about everything in the game like weapons, vehicles and their modifications. so it is already confirmed that you will be able to take your icrap and check on some weaponconfigurations and their values outside of the game.
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Old 2012-06-24, 07:43 AM   [Ignore Me] #39
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Re: Dear Devs, Please make a Certs Calculator


Originally Posted by Kran De Loy View Post
The opposite could also be said, if you don't have the time to get every cert, having a cert calculator could be invaluable since it would allow you to be sure to get all the ones you want.

desired.
This would be rendered mostly inert by a simple "Are you sure?" prompt before leaving the certifications screen after you have spent all points.

Besides, it's not like some simple addition is too much to ask from the player.

Now, a cert calculator released before I could play it would be fabulous because then I could read all the certs.

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Old 2012-06-24, 08:01 AM   [Ignore Me] #40
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Re: Dear Devs, Please make a Certs Calculator


Originally Posted by Shogun View Post
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by the way, matt already said, that the phone-apps will include full wikis about everything in the game like weapons, vehicles and their modifications. so it is already confirmed that you will be able to take your icrap and check on some weaponconfigurations and their values outside of the game.
The official ps2 website will have the same functionality as the apps on ipads. All the 'certs' and whatever you can think of will most likely be on there. They know people like this sort of stuff, and cater for it or give you the tools to do one yourself.Don't panic.
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Old 2012-06-24, 08:54 AM   [Ignore Me] #41
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Re: Dear Devs, Please make a Certs Calculator


Originally Posted by Sephirex View Post
They said right now it would take 2 1/2 years of actively playing to unlock everything. And they also said they'll have content patches well before then.
... I really hope that someone who doesn't have upgrades can still have a chance of beating someone with all upgrades. If not, that's an issue I like to call: "More gear less skill".
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Old 2012-06-24, 08:59 AM   [Ignore Me] #42
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The Devs have assured us that, in the end, skill will be the most important thing.

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Old 2012-06-24, 11:47 AM   [Ignore Me] #43
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From what they said in the dual commentary video is that a "level 5 and level 50 will be on the same level but the level 50 will have more choices" being that he said level 5 there are some basic upgrades, but they are achievable very early on.
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Old 2012-06-24, 01:54 PM   [Ignore Me] #44
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Re: Dear Devs, Please make a Certs Calculator


Originally Posted by ThermalReaper View Post
... I really hope that someone who doesn't have upgrades can still have a chance of beating someone with all upgrades. If not, that's an issue I like to call: "More gear less skill".

You're still limited in how many upgrades you can have at once.
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Old 2012-06-24, 01:56 PM   [Ignore Me] #45
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I can't see them not doing this.
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