Would you RATHER they charge for the game (one time fee)?

[Fanglord]

I've said this before, I love that its f2p; but I hope there is a bundle for around the price of a full game that includes a full games worth or large % of content unlocks.

[Gamer]

Originally Posted by Redshift

If you want the game to last longer than a year you need the amount of players a f2p gets

False statement. CoD:MW is still being played by a ton of players years after release. TF2 was played by an insane amount of players for years before it became F2P. The same can be said with many other games. You just need to make a good game and the players will come.

[Noivad]

I voted FTP. I have purchased a lot of games, and no matter what you pay for them there are hackers. Some companies are more effective in dealing whith their hackers then others. I have not seen any increase in the amount of hackers in FTP games. It rarely affected my game any how. Just kill the hackers or bots.

I like what world of tanks has in their game. You can just click on a persons name and report them if you think they are a bot or playing unfairly. If enough people do it to one player they check that players account and ban them if they are hacking.

Higby said that they will be able to tell if any player is doing something that is not allowed and will ban people who do. I don't think it will be a problem. In any event speculation is pointless untill we actually see what happens in game.

[MonsterBone]

I have no problem throwing money at this game but free is better because it equals more players.

As for hackers the free model means you can not ban people by user name. BUT you can ban them by IP, hardware ID and unique hash codes. All the better if you dont announce how you do it.

[p0intman]

DUST514 is asking for a one-time fee to purchase the game, and that fee is being translated into aur that people can use ingame for purchasing gear and shit.

If you do, do this. One time fee + station cash equivilent to said one time fee and free from there on.

[razor851]

Originally Posted by p0intman

DUST514 is asking for a one-time fee to purchase the game, and that fee is being translated into aur that people can use ingame for purchasing gear and shit.

If you do, do this. One time fee + station cash equivilent to said one time fee and free from there on.

I must speak retard because I understand what you're saying. That's a pretty nifty idea!

[p0intman]

Originally Posted by razor851

I must speak retard because I understand what you're saying. That's a pretty nifty idea!

Have you considered that I am in fact not retarded to begin with?

[Sabin]

Originally Posted by Stew

Planetside 1 was 300 players

Planetside 2 is 2000 players

Hope you see the difference

If its free to play and its no pay to win in any ways the game will be really popular and we will have enough player based to fill every servers but also enough players to pay for the game

ALso our caracter will be server specific so if their is low numbers of player in the server you choose first youll be stuck their with a low player base is thats you want really ? it happen in many MMO and it sucks

F2P is the best way to go

According to Forbe, PC Gaming has grown exponentially. Common sense points at that too. A lot of us in our late 20's, early 30's grew up playing PC games, and alot of us have stuck with it. Introduce a newer generation who were basically breast fed by electronics and BAM.

Also, FPS games are very popular, as well are MMOs.

BF3 and COD:MW3 sold in the MILLIONS. Both FPS Multiplayer games. Both charging a initial fee. And yes, both riddled with hackers because they can switch to another dedicated server, which is not an issue with PS2.

Guild Wars sold in the millions.

Now - regarding the "more people will play if it's free." I agree, more people will INITIALLY play when it's free. But more people will be there in the long run if you have that initial charge. Griefers and hackers will be vastly minimized, because no one wants to keep buying the same game just to log on and hack it. Well, maybe SOME do, but I assure you, many more will if they don't have to buy it again.

If you have the delusion that GMs will make everything better, you must not know what it takes to determine if someone is griefing or hacking. The damage will be done before action is taken, and then another account will be made. Well, that is unless SOE hires hundreds, if not thousands of GMs at the call, but something tells me that will not fit into their business strategy. And even then, the damage will most likely have been done.

This current strategy will make SOE the most money, and they are a company in the business of making money.

Originally Posted by p0intman

DUST514 is asking for a one-time fee to purchase the game, and that fee is being translated into aur that people can use ingame for purchasing gear and shit.

If you do, do this. One time fee + station cash equivilent to said one time fee and free from there on.

I actually think this is the best idea I've heard. Make the item they purchase non-tradeable so if they get caught hacking and banned, they still lose their item instead of being able to drop it off on another account.

I know it's been mentioned because on this thread. Props to those who had the idea. I think it's near perfect.

[noxious]

What about premium servers? You pay X dollars to buy the game and then you get access to a subset of servers that are only accessible if you paid for the game.

[HeatLegend]

Originally Posted by KTNApollo

One time fees can't support MMOs. /thread

He never said anything about replacing Micro-Transactions with this so I'm sorry but. /ReOpenThread

[Rumblepit]

i vote yes ... and why???? will keep out 90% of the hackers.

[Sabin]

Originally Posted by noxious

What about premium servers? You pay X dollars to buy the game and then you get access to a subset of servers that are only accessible if you paid for the game.

I feel that would split the audience, which would lead to certain servers not being nearly full.

[DarkChiron]

Originally Posted by p0intman

DUST514 is asking for a one-time fee to purchase the game, and that fee is being translated into aur that people can use ingame for purchasing gear and shit.

If you do, do this. One time fee + station cash equivilent to said one time fee and free from there on.

Honestly, I'd rather not have to put down $60 right away, even with them giving me equivalent Station Cash. I got alot of computer upgrades to make and won't have much money sitting around for awhile.

I think I'd almost rather have a subscription where you get the equivalent in Station Cash along with a minor discount on purchases made with Station Cash. I think that would be delightful.

[Talented Maori]

Voted No, paying won't stop hackers..., pretty sure some of them also have money! Also 'cos the Devs said free and I tend to not tell people how to do what it is they do.

[Vydofnir]

If it wasn't for the F2P model I probably wouldn't even consider purchasing the game. My income goes almost exclusively toward keeping a roof over my head and food in my stomach, so I indulge in a game purchase only rarely. I generally avoid buying and playing online games because I have come to expect hackers, griefers, exploiters, and all sorts of unsavory types, even when those games have $60 price tags. Even if SOE were to charge a minimal one-time fee that would translate into station cash, I still might be unwilling to make the initial investment because I would be expecting griefers regardless of their business model.

If this game turns our to be half as amazing as it's shaping up to be, I will have no problem throwing as much of my hard earned money at it as I possibly can, but only if I can do so on my own terms. I want to see SOE make big money off this F2P business model, because I would love to live in a world where the consumer is able to dictate exactly what a game is worth. If SOE does a great job making and maintaining PS2, I will gladly pay them as much money as I can spare as often as I can spare it; If they fail to do so (and I sincerely doubt this will be the case) they won't get a dime out of me. This business model holds SOE accountable for making sure that their game is top notch and continues to be so well after release.

It seems to me that their business model is a highly profitable one assuming they keep their customers satisfied. If hacking and griefing becomes a game-killing issue, SOE loses their paying customers. I sincerely doubt that SOE would adopt this business model if they didn't feel that they could profit from it, nor do I feel that they would fail to invest those profits into ardently maintaining and moderating their game. I'm sure that if SOE makes money off the F2P model, that money will be put to good use making sure that they keep their paying customers happy. The developers have so much faith in their ability to make and maintain this game that they are offering it for free, I see no reason to doubt them.