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Old 2012-06-25, 10:15 PM   [Ignore Me] #16
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Re: Upgrade CPU or video card?


i5 are still solid for gaming. last i heard the i7s are not a huge bump in performance. the graphics card on the other hand would probably handle a huge chunk of the load. most games don't optimize more than 4 cores. which is why my bulldozer at 8 cores is pretty much not as efficient. i've yet to see the thing bog down since i've had it. things damn stable and solid it would take one hell of a job to slow the cpu down. my vid card is a mid range ati though and it's possible it'll choke if i crank up beta too nice. i'll probably get a really beefy nvidia after beta goes live. but i wanna see how things go. but ya definitely would recommend the vid card over cpu atm.
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Old 2012-06-26, 02:36 AM   [Ignore Me] #17
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I have a i5 2500k and the performance increase I received from overclocking to 4.0 GHz was nice but only added a few fps.

Breaking down the numbers:
CPU Upgrade - $290/10% = $29/1%
GPU Upgrade - $400/50% = $8/1%

Keep in mind that the 670 offers, AT THE VERY MINIMUM, a 50% performance increase over the 460.

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Old 2012-06-27, 10:21 PM   [Ignore Me] #18
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At what resolution ? At low settings the bottle neck will switch back to the CPU in this game.

Every review you see out there is done at high resolution for some reason.

At 1028 res this game with alot of people on the screen will be CPU bottle necked. That means that a new card wont help me at all.

I dont like high res in a FPS game if it causes my game not to be crystal smooth.

I am not drinking the coolade.
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Old 2012-06-28, 03:27 AM   [Ignore Me] #19
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Might I suggest you avoid asking for peoples' opinions if you're going to ignore every single one of them?

You have the entirety of the tech forum regulars telling you the 2500 is more than fine for PS2, or that the 2600 is a waste of money and you have yet to explain why it wouldn't be.

Now granted, if you have a 1280x1024 monitor, a 670 will be a sledgehammer to every game you have...Games that ran at sub-60 FPS on your 460 will run 60+ at max settings. However, if you have a 1280x1024 monitor, then you are capped at 60hz. Anything more than 60 FPS will make no difference to you. If you find games smoother at 70FPS, 100FPS or 12000FPS, it's all in your head. "Crystal smooth", for you, is 60FPS.

If you want a CPU upgrade, here's what I suggest...

This, this and this. Overclock it to hell and you'll have your CPU upgrade.

The 2600 will not be the difference between "crystal smooth" and not "crystal smooth", in some games it's actually slower than the 2500.

So, you presented us with a choice between upgrading a 2500 to a 2600 or a 460 to a 670. Given that choice, the 460 to the 670 wins, easily, every time. However, if you're playing at 1280x1024 and you're happy for your game to look horrible, with no plans to upgrade your monitor to a larger resolution model, then maybe you have no use for a 670...But the important thing is, that that then puts it dead equal to the 2600 in terms of what's useful to you.

If after all that you're still determined to purchase a pointless CPU upgrade, buy the 2500k and a decent CPU cooler, then overclock. That way you can imagine your game's running smoother and you'll have at least wasted a little bit less of your hard earned cash.
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Old 2012-06-28, 10:32 AM   [Ignore Me] #20
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Originally Posted by MonsterBone View Post
At what resolution ? At low settings the bottle neck will switch back to the CPU in this game.

Every review you see out there is done at high resolution for some reason.

At 1028 res this game with alot of people on the screen will be CPU bottle necked. That means that a new card wont help me at all.

I dont like high res in a FPS game if it causes my game not to be crystal smooth.

I am not drinking the coolade.
The world has moved on from 15 inch monitors. Most people these days have at least 1680x1050. You are the one putting yourself at the disadvantage due not not having as much of a viewing area TBH.

You game at that resolution with a GTX 460 and plan on running PS2 low settings? You will have more than enough FPS. No reason to get a 670.

Be my guest and drink that coolade of yours and get a 2600 and not notice any difference.
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Old 2012-06-28, 10:35 AM   [Ignore Me] #21
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Upgrade that GPU. That processor is still good!

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Old 2012-06-28, 12:00 PM   [Ignore Me] #22
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Originally Posted by Goku View Post
The world has moved on from 15 inch monitors. Most people these days have at least 1680x1050. You are the one putting yourself at the disadvantage due not not having as much of a viewing area TBH.
This is exactly the point.

Higher resolution = More information = Advantage.
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Old 2012-06-28, 12:18 PM   [Ignore Me] #23
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Originally Posted by Vancha View Post
Might I suggest you avoid asking for peoples' opinions if you're going to ignore every single one of them?

Anything more than 60 FPS will make no difference to you. If you find games smoother at 70FPS, 100FPS or 12000FPS, it's all in your head. "Crystal smooth", for you, is 60FPS.

So, you presented us with a choice between upgrading a 2500 to a 2600 or a 460 to a 670. Given that choice, the 460 to the 670 wins, easily, every time. However, if you're playing at 1280x1024 and you're happy for your game to look horrible, with no plans to upgrade your monitor to a larger resolution model, then maybe you have no use for a 670...But the important thing is, that that then puts it dead equal to the 2600 in terms of what's useful to you.

If after all that you're still determined to purchase a pointless CPU upgrade, buy the 2500k and a decent CPU cooler, then overclock. That way you can imagine your game's running smoother and you'll have at least wasted a little bit less of your hard earned cash.
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Be my guest and drink that coolade of yours and get a 2600 and not notice any difference.
Sometimes people are dead set on a single mindset and are ignorant to the truth around them. We have no business trying to convince people what to buy. We are only here to give our input. It is their money to waste.

To the OP, thanks for giving the Devil Dogs some bad rep...

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