am not sure if some of you have seen this but

TRscpd · 2003-03-23, 07:04 PM

here is a little thing that can help you spec your guy right

http://www.uea.ac.uk/~y0210188/PSskillcalc.html

and you can type in a number for your battle rank gos up to 20 points

Lonehunter · 2003-03-23, 07:08 PM

Somebody posted that site a long time ago. It's a little guestimator.

mr_luc · 2003-03-23, 07:26 PM

Even if it's just guesstimating . . . it's pretty impressive, and given the amount of beta testers out there it's probably fair-to-middling accurate.

Anyways, it's definitely given me a rough feel of how I want to spec already.

TRscpd · 2003-03-23, 07:29 PM

i been using this alot am trying to think on what i really want to do

Warborn · 2003-03-23, 07:45 PM

I think the costs of the certs is too low. You'd be able to get way too much stuff if everything ranged from 1 to 3 cert points.

TRscpd · 2003-03-23, 07:52 PM

not really if you do battle rank 20 you get alot of stuff but you can be a commando you get all types of armor and weapons but nothing els play with it a little you see

Warborn · 2003-03-23, 07:55 PM

Originally posted by TRscpd
not really if you do battle rank 20 you get alot of stuff but you can be a commando you get all types of armor and weapons but nothing els play with it a little you see

Nah, I'm sure it's too cheap. You'd be able to get all the utility certs (hacking etc), reinforced, a mini-chaingun, and a basilisk for personal transportation. With so much available to you, they might as well not even have certs, because at a higher level virtually everyone will be able to do everything apart from some pilot roles (and even then, a pilot will be able to pilot everything and then some).

NeoDrgnMech · 2003-03-23, 08:03 PM

If you feel that some of the things are too cheap, then double them. For example, crank up the MAX's to 4, and maybe some of the equipment to 3-4. Then just do the math in your head.

Still, I probably won't rely on this thing. I'll wait until I'm in the game looking at the certification screen before I decide my how to spend my cert points.

Warborn · 2003-03-23, 09:23 PM

If you feel that some of the things are too cheap, then double them. For example, crank up the MAX's to 4, and maybe some of the equipment to 3-4. Then just do the math in your head.

I was pointing out that I think the person who made the site was being too generous with cert costs, not whatever it is you thought I meant. I was remarking on the inaccuracy.

Lonehunter · 2003-03-23, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by Warborn
I think the costs of the certs is too low. You'd be able to get way too much stuff if everything ranged from 1 to 3 cert points.

I agree.

Fire_Monkey · 2003-03-23, 09:42 PM

Also this was made long before beta began, and there weren't very many screens. From screens I've seen, the Bolt-Driver is most likely 3. I agree with War.

DarkDragon00 · 2003-03-23, 09:47 PM

Terran Elite Airborne Regiment

I think its almost completly acurate. A little here and there will need improvement but it seems like it works.

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Augustus · 2003-03-23, 09:57 PM

Look at it from the other angle.

A new characters comes out of VR training as Battle Rank 5 with 6 Cert points.

It's just enough to upgrade armor, pick a weapon and choose either a vehicle or equipment cert.

If the certs cost more than are listed in that utility, new players won't have enough certs to be very useful.

I doubt it's 100% accurate, but I suspect it's close.

Warborn · 2003-03-24, 12:00 AM

A little here and there will need improvement but it seems like it works.

That's subjective. Works according to who's idea of how the game should be?

If the certs cost more than are listed in that utility, new players won't have enough certs to be very useful.

How is someone in Rienforced with a Punisher/Cycler (or its counter-parts) considered to be not very useful? I really fail to see how someone won't be able to contribute to a battle with Reinforced and a Punisher.

Augustus · 2003-03-24, 01:12 AM

If you add just 1 point to each of the Certs, Reinforced and Medium Assault would be a total of 7 points.
You'd need Battle Rank 6.

My point is that in begining players need can't be 100% specialized, it'd make them easy targets. If certs are any more expensive than shown in that utility, they'd be forced to.

Want to start out as a driver/pilot? You wouldn't have enough cert points to also get an armor & weapon upgrade.
So, you'd be dead outside your vehicle.

Want Advanced Medical? You wouldn't be able to upgrade your armor (and the inventory capacity that goes with that, so you couldn't care more 'juice' cans) or your weapon.
A medic with starting armor & weapon would be an easy target.

See what I'm getting at?