Command Ranks

Xenostalker · 2012-07-25, 03:33 PM

Anyone have information on if they are bringing back command ranks and command features?

This was one of the more complex elements to PS1 that I believe made it stand out, and if that's missing well..... well that's not good.

Hamma · 2012-07-25, 03:49 PM

I don't believe they are adding classic command ranks, instead there will be command cert trees to train into.

Rodel · 2012-07-25, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by Hamma

I don't believe they are adding classic command ranks, instead there will be command cert trees to train into.

I hope they listen to what you guys said regarding possible command structures in your last broadcast. There were some fantastic ideas that seemed easy enough to implement.

Reizod · 2012-07-25, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by Hamma

I don't believe they are adding classic command ranks, instead there will be command cert trees to train into.

^^^This

The way the game plays now, I think the command cert tree approach would be best.

Baneblade · 2012-07-25, 04:23 PM

I do like the idea of command rank returning as a visual identifier for those who seriously lead (as opposed to those who will cert leadership whether they lead or not), but no special abilities associated with it.

fvdham · 2012-07-25, 04:23 PM

So, will I able to cert into global chatter for sing-alongs.
Never got further than cr 3.457 in PS1.

I think there should be an officer class with a nice suit.
Like a sword and a pistol.

DREGS · 2012-07-25, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by Baneblade

I do like the idea of command rank returning as a visual identifier for those who seriously lead (as opposed to those who will cert leadership whether they lead or not), but no special abilities associated with it.

That's a good point RE: people certing into it with no real leadership experience or skill. Hopefully they're quick learners!

Dubious · 2012-07-26, 04:05 AM

ill cert into leadership just to get global spam and OS

Gugabalog · 2012-07-26, 11:39 PM

Yea. I don't think there should be command certs. Maybe have a seperate command rank system that unlocks command certs to be certed. I don't want random douches walkign around with command support dealies. It just doesnt seem right.

Xenostalker · 2012-07-28, 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by Baneblade

I do like the idea of command rank returning as a visual identifier for those who seriously lead (as opposed to those who will cert leadership whether they lead or not), but no special abilities associated with it.

This is basically the jist of what I was hoping for.

"Certing" into command features sounds kind of.... odd. There's no real reward there.

Who knows, maybe they will add customizations you unlock through successful squad missions etc.

Gugabalog · 2012-07-28, 01:04 AM

I'd be more ok with it if the certs were of a more technological nature than command ability nature.

BlueSkies · 2012-07-29, 06:45 AM

The problem with command rank was that eventually pretty much everyone had AT LEAST one CR5.

Part of that had to do with lvl caps. Once you were max battle rank, you weren't sacrificing anything by squad leading for command experience points.

In PS2 you will be sacrificing certs you could have put into weapons or vehicles for command abilities. Now, you will probably at some point hit the level where you have all the upgrades you want and could start randomly certing into command. However, we can only hope that the SOE release cycle for new weapons/attachments/vehicles keeps you from getting there too soon.

QuantumMechanic · 2012-07-30, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by Gugabalog

Yea. I don't think there should be command certs. Maybe have a seperate command rank system that unlocks command certs to be certed. I don't want random douches walkign around with command support dealies. It just doesnt seem right.

I think this is a tricky issue to solve. In PS1 you essentially had the same problem, anybody who wanted it bad enough could get CR5 without employing any leadership skills at all. They'd just get CR5 for the orbital strike ability. If you play the game now maybe a little bit less than half the active players are CR5.

I haven't heard anyone offer up a better option yet though.

Xenostalker · 2012-07-31, 01:11 AM

Originally Posted by BlueSkies

The problem with command rank was that eventually pretty much everyone had AT LEAST one CR5.

Part of that had to do with lvl caps. Once you were max battle rank, you weren't sacrificing anything by squad leading for command experience points.

In PS2 you will be sacrificing certs you could have put into weapons or vehicles for command abilities. Now, you will probably at some point hit the level where you have all the upgrades you want and could start randomly certing into command. However, we can only hope that the SOE release cycle for new weapons/attachments/vehicles keeps you from getting there too soon.

This actually makes a lot of sense.

There's always that "who needs squad leader for CEP" going on in PS1. Bad gameplay element.