I don't like Planetside 2 :( - Page 4

Top Sgt · 2012-09-01, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by DayOne

I just spent 3 hours defending zurvan with 5 other outfit mates. Hopefully they'll implement all these new capture mechanics on all the bases. THEN it will truely feel like a planetside sequel.

P.S. Your sig is almost okay if it weren't for "a lot" being spelt wrong, three time, then put in bold, underlined, and italics.

it's fine on a few bases.. but I don't want the camp fest at Zurvan to be at all the bases.

Gortha · 2012-09-01, 09:21 AM

I disagree on almost all points of the Original Poster.

I was a Closed Beta 2003 Veteran. I also played several years with pauses PS. And PS2 feels like PS1 when there are enougfh players fighting around.

Basedesign could be more Castleish/ more like a Fortress, less open, BUT
the masses always dieing at 2 or 3 Chokepoints is also BORING/Frustating.

My feeling is, PS2 is moving on Planetsides path and evolving in the right direction.

GReetz
Gortha

LastManStanding · 2012-09-01, 10:46 AM

I'll join those disagreeing with the OP. Graphics wise there are some rough textures, particularly things like rocks when up close, but in general it looks great (and I'm only using a GTX 460 on med settings). Some of the bases are stunning and it's beautiful to look at during the night when there's a large scale battle going on.

I don't have a problem with flying either. It took practice to get to grips with, but I don't think it's overly difficult and it's enjoyable once you get the hang of it.

There are some problems with the game, but the developers are aware of them and are actively working to improve it as you'd expect in the beta phase.

Xyntech · 2012-09-01, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by EVILoHOMER

The problem I have with "it's beta comments" is that's the time where you should bring up negative feedback, not silence it.

Yes. This.

But then... this:

Originally Posted by EVILoHOMER

I don't like SOE, I don't like how they've managed their games and I don't think they'll ever learn. However because it was Planetside 2 I gave them a chance and sadly while I respect them for trying to deliver something ambitious, for now they've failed for me and my friends at least.

The thing is, I don't really see most people saying "it's beta" as a means to end the discussion. I mostly see people saying "it's beta" in reference to comments like the second quote. You feel let down with a game that's a work in progress? Really? That's fucked up. Saying you would personally enjoy a different flight model, or that you think base layouts are broken and not conducive to great battles is one thing. Acting like some of the low quality placeholder textures and unimplemented features are a personal insult to you is another.

The game undoubtedly has a lot of issues at the moment, some of them objective and some that are more subjective to different peoples personal taste. All of these should certainly be made known to the developers, so that the objective problems can get worked out, and so that the majority voice can possibly influence the subjective matters. Being constructive with our criticism is key here (although bitching and whining about blatantly broken bugs does have it's place).

I'm really impressed with the game even in it's current partially broken state myself. I've also seen some really impressive improvements in the optimization, gameplay and content in the few weeks that I've been participating. Maybe it's the fact that I always liked the first game as a whole, but hated most of the nitty gritty of the gameplay, but Planetside 2 is really shaping up to be my ideal successor to the first game. Obviously it's not going to please everyone, but I definitely hope that some of the improvements coming down the pipe will make it a game that most vets will enjoy even if there are a few changes that they don't prefer, because I have a feeling that Planetside 2 is going to be huge. PS1 had an awesome community, and I don't want to see almost any of them left behind for what will undoubtedly be an amazing experience in the sequel.

vVRedOctoberVv · 2012-09-01, 11:36 AM

@Xyntech

+1 Internetz to you, sir.

It's not that people can't express their opinions or that every opinion should be positive. The thing that's irritating is people behaving like this is a finished product. You haven't been "let down", yet, no matter what your feelings are, because the game ISN'T FINISHED YET. It's not even close to being done. There's two more continents that will be starkly different from the one we have, there will be dozens of alternate weapons added in for both the classes and the vehicles, entire base layouts and game mechanics are different from when I started two weeks ago...

How can you say they've "failed" at this point? They're working VERY hard to NOT fail. 90% of the game features that will make it what they're aiming for have not been fully implemented yet.

It is NOT a "game" yet. It is a game that is in development. DEVELOPMENT. You all understand what that means, right? It has to start somewhere, it's not just suddenly a finished and polished product. It's a gradual progression toward release as new features are added and TESTED. Tested? That's right, as time goes on, things are both added and removed for the sake of TESTING.

What would happen if Liberators could drop tactical nukes? Only one way to find out. Add them in the game and see what the players do. Too powerful? Take them back out and try something else. See what we did there? We TESTED something. Just because something is one way today, does not mean that's the final draft of it. So chill your littles asses. If you don't like how things are going, then voice an opinion (note: not emo-rage or whine or "I hate you all you're doing it wrong"), be constructive (offer solutions to your complaint rather than just saying "no you") and continue TESTING the product that is DEVELOPMENT.

Acting surprised that the game is "broken" or "incomplete" or "shallow" is retarded considering it's not DONE yet. Of course it feels "lacking".... because it IS!

Dartan · 2012-09-01, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by EVILoHOMER

The problem I have with "it's beta comments" is that's the time where you should bring up negative feedback, not silence it.

I have been a part of every MMO beta since I can remember, at least all the major MMOs any ways. Most of them have failed before they even hit beta because the fundamental mechanics are put in way before beta. The problem with a game where these core mechanics are just bad is very rarely are they fixed and certainly never in an SOE game.

I'm a burnt Vet of SOE games yeah, I admit that.

- EQ - Luclin and PoP ruined the game
- PS - BFRs and lack of any content ruined the game
- SWG - Buggy launch, Jedi, JTLS, CU and the NGE ruined the game
- EQ2 - Dumbed down so hard from a forced grouped hard game to some weird wannabe WoW clone

I don't like SOE, I don't like how they've managed their games and I don't think they'll ever learn. However because it was Planetside 2 I gave them a chance and sadly while I respect them for trying to deliver something ambitious, for now they've failed for me and my friends at least.

I've given my feedback and if they want to listen then great, if not then I just wont play.... simple, I'm not going to get involved with throwing insults around on the forums.

I can confirm this, I've been in a lot of betas and the classic "it's just a beta" excuse never ever turned out to be true.

It is just an excuse deluded people use.

Boone · 2012-09-01, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by vVRedOctoberVv

@Xyntech

+1 Internetz to you, sir.

It's not that people can't express their opinions or that every opinion should be positive. The thing that's irritating is people behaving like this is a finished product. You haven't been "let down", yet, no matter what your feelings are, because the game ISN'T FINISHED YET. It's not even close to being done. There's two more continents that will be starkly different from the one we have, there will be dozens of alternate weapons added in for both the classes and the vehicles, entire base layouts and game mechanics are different from when I started two weeks ago...

How can you say they've "failed" at this point? They're working VERY hard to NOT fail. 90% of the game features that will make it what they're aiming for have not been fully implemented yet.

It is NOT a "game" yet. It is a game that is in development. DEVELOPMENT. You all understand what that means, right? It has to start somewhere, it's not just suddenly a finished and polished product. It's a gradual progression toward release as new features are added and TESTED. Tested? That's right, as time goes on, things are both added and removed for the sake of TESTING.

What would happen if Liberators could drop tactical nukes? Only one way to find out. Add them in the game and see what the players do. Too powerful? Take them back out and try something else. See what we did there? We TESTED something. Just because something is one way today, does not mean that's the final draft of it. So chill your littles asses. If you don't like how things are going, then voice an opinion (note: not emo-rage or whine or "I hate you all you're doing it wrong"), be constructive (offer solutions to your complaint rather than just saying "no you") and continue TESTING the product that is DEVELOPMENT.

Acting surprised that the game is "broken" or "incomplete" or "shallow" is retarded considering it's not DONE yet. Of course it feels "lacking".... because it IS!

those ppl think flipping a switch and things are fixed im sure hes young

Originally Posted by Dartan

I can confirm this, I've been in a lot of betas and the classic "it's just a beta" excuse never ever turned out to be true.

It is just an excuse deluded people use.

cant compared marketing betas to real betas. gw2 fixed alot and so is dust 514....real betas not your 2 month prior release bs do help.

evilhomer just seems to whine a lot

EVILoHOMER · 2012-09-07, 07:00 PM

It's not about it being a finished product, we have to give feedback on what we're given and I'm just saying in this state I wont be playing. Tbh I'm not playing, I've uninstalled and I have no interest in playing any time soon. I'm not an idiot, I know how games are made and I know that lots of things I have a problem with cannot be fixed because it's too late down in the line. The last company I expect to fix anything after the shambles of their previous MMO history is SOE lol.

Dayz has proven there is a market for the hardcore, people don't tend to be put off by hard games. Minecraft is a pretty hard game in that you aren't told what to do and it isn't that intuitive with certain things and yet it is because it's basically Lego. However it's so popular and it has sold millions because of word of mouth. SOE hasn't worked on that idea, they really wanna dumb down their games and turn them into clones of existing games to try and make something popular. SWG, EQ and EQ2 are games I once loved from SOE and yet they've all just turned into WoW. People are gonna argue with that but take EQ2 for example, it was a 100% group based game past like level 13 where the quests were dotted around but were unique, no indication on who gave quests etc etc. Now you solo to the end level, barely any grouped content, you can tank like 10 mobs at once, crafting has been dumbed down and theres quest icons etc.

Planetside 2 for me feels like Battlefield 3 meets COD... it just doesn't feel like Planetside at all and so many people I know who loved Planetside hate it. I feel like why call it Planetside 2? The name means nothing to people who will love this game and for old fans they're most likely going to be angry like me.

I'm not gonna cry about it, just not gonna play so cya, given my feedback already on the official forums. Probably been flamed and told to go back to COD or WoW like the usual response.

PhoenixDog · 2012-09-07, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by EVILoHOMER

Tbh I'm not playing, I've uninstalled and I have no interest in playing any time soon.

Then leave. Obviously this isn't the game for you. Let those of us who do and are enjoying the game actually enjoy it without ignorant people like you dragging everything down. Normally when I don't like a game, I don't hang around the fan forums belittling it.

Snipefrag · 2012-09-07, 11:22 PM

Disagree with pretty much all of it, sounds to me like you wanted PS1 with updated graphics. Well... That wasn't going to happen, if you want to play with your clunky inventory system, have aircraft handling akin to flying a hockey puck, terribly compact base designs then resub to PS1. You will be happy to hear they are keeping the servers open for the foreseeable future !! Personally I'm having a blast.. Give it 2-3 months and hopefully you will come around to it, the game is very raw at the moment but still hella fun.

jepaul · 2012-09-08, 12:07 AM

I love this game as well. Everything I hoped for. Competitive fps on a grand scale.

camycamera · 2012-09-08, 12:24 AM

BETA. nuff said.

SixShooter · 2012-09-08, 03:13 AM

Not going to go too far into it but, I totally disagree with the OP. Most of what I see in the OP whining that things are too hard (graphic bugs aside). I'm having a fucking blast. I finally learned how to fly, have been in some wicked big tank battles, some crazy last man standing infantry fights and I can say that I'm fucking loving it.

I feel bad for other that are not liking it because it seems that they also hate every other game ever made (except for PS1) and there is likely not a game that exists that will make them happy. It seems like it would be a sad lonely existence to spend all your time hating everything but, to each their own I guess.

cellinaire · 2012-09-08, 03:34 AM

info from Smed: SOE won't shut down PS1 anytime soon.

And if you don't like this game, well then sorry for you. Maybe Guild Wars2 might interest you more...

RobUK · 2012-09-08, 04:30 AM

Originally Posted by cellinaire

info from Smed: SOE won't shut down PS1 anytime soon.

How old is that information? I remember him saying that way back when Planetside 2 was announced. As much as I love the game, at the moment it may as well close down as there's rarely even 50 people playing it at what used to be peak time, which is sad to see.

Everybody is playing PS2 beta now, which is what SOE presumably wants. They don't want people ignoring Planetside 2 beta and playing Planetside 1 instead.

When the time is right though, I hope that Planetside gets the "facelift" that Smed originally promised. It's still a grand old game and it deserves to be updated. I'd happily pay to play both, either via joint subscription or through cash shop items.

Incidentally, pretty much all of the things that Thom "Enrico Pallazo" Terrazas was talking about being added to Planetside when he was Producer (weapon variants, vehicle variants, swappable MAX weapons, jetpacks etc) are all to be found in Planetside 2, so at some point the decision was made to stop adding stuff to Planetside 1 and save all the new and interesting stuff for Planetside 2.

At least we know where all of our sub money went over those awful years of zero support and no new content