Please make vehicles tougher and remove FF.. - Page 2

Crator · 2012-10-20, 10:40 PM

Some state that nade spam will be an issue if they remove grief. Is that true for PS2? I know it was for PS1. But in PS2, you can't have as many nades as you could in PS1 @ one time and they are limited by resources.

Here's my ideas to improve FF issues:

Separate grief into different types: Vehicle Driver & Gun. This way you can set different cool down rates.
Appropriate cool down rates for each grief type; Which shouldn't be too hard to balance if you do all the steps I list here.
Make grief increment based on amount of damage done consecutively, per type.
Better visual indicators and sounds, each one different per type of damage being done. The message on the screen is cool but I'd rather see it in flashing red in my chat bar and another type of on-screen hit indicator that looks unique and shows on the target I'm hitting.
More distinct Doppler effect sounds for vehicles approaching. Sundies need horns | Galaxys need a cool sound effect horn to use when landing.Helps ground troops distinguish vehicles approaching so they can get the heck out the way.
Let's add in a mini-lock if you reach a certain amount of grief. And consecutive locks after for doing further grief (x amount) after getting locked the first time. Each time the longer the lock will remain.

Shenyen · 2012-10-20, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by Timealude

OP this has been the 5th or 6th negative post you have done in the past 2 weeks...

And he stated in another thread, that he played Planetside 1 only for 3 months in 2003 before he quit.

@DjEclipse

In any other game, people teamkilling would be voted off the server.

Weaponlock is necessary to make sure that FF is paid attention to and FF is necessary to make sure that this is not just a grenade spam/zergfest.

@Crator

Different types of grief would be a good addition, as you have no control of vehicles in the first seconds after spawning them, sometimes you are totally unable to NOT drive over someone running on the "street".

Horns would also be great, especially for Galaxies leaving soon.
Just use a and everybody in the vicinity knows which Gal is going to take off soon.

RSphil · 2012-10-21, 01:29 AM

the only ff i have had is when a muppet runs in front of me when shooting at a target. dont know about you but if a guys is firing a shit loads of rounds running in front of him is a bad idea lol.

ff is needed and people just need to use their heads a little. it ill be fine as people learn how to play this type of game with such a large battlefield and so many fighters.

xSlideShow · 2012-10-21, 02:18 AM

He may be pessimistic but he is at least voicing his concerns now is the time to do it. So even if I don't agree with everything I certainly say keep at it.

Crator · 2012-10-21, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by RSphil

the only ff i have had is when a muppet runs in front of me when shooting at a target. dont know about you but if a guys is firing a shit loads of rounds running in front of him is a bad idea lol.

ff is needed and people just need to use their heads a little. it ill be fine as people learn how to play this type of game with such a large battlefield and so many fighters.

Perhaps you weren't noticed when they ran in front of you. I really think better indicators are needed.

basti · 2012-10-21, 01:09 PM

I think by now it should be clear that Homer is just trolling, or just completly stupid.

Therefore, i suggest we let this thread, and all other of homers threads, die.

EVILoHOMER · 2012-10-21, 05:57 PM

Really? When FF is a big issue I see all the time in the game, it adds nothing, why do you think most games turn it off?

Vehicles being tougher against geometry is a bad idea? They're like giant barrels of Petrol with the whole world being one big spark...... sorry but an aircraft like this wouldn't explode from the slightest touch and with their tech I'd think they would have sorted that issue by now.

Fear The Amish · 2012-10-21, 08:04 PM

FF needs to be on
Air vehicles need more health yes but ground vehicles no...

Mooseay · 2012-10-21, 10:19 PM

ff must remain and with the terain, magrider just float on over it son

cooonips · 2012-10-22, 01:56 AM

FF for guns is fine, stops it turning spammy.
but FF for running people over, NO!!! NONNONONONONONO>>>!!!! especially with how easy it is to run someone over. its like you tap someones toe and they dead. teamkill. -100000 points.

Timealude · 2012-10-22, 04:46 AM

Originally Posted by cooonips

FF for guns is fine, stops it turning spammy.
but FF for running people over, NO!!! NONNONONONONONO>>>!!!! especially with how easy it is to run someone over. its like you tap someones toe and they dead. teamkill. -100000 points.

thing is this would just make it so tanks would just rush forward through there infantry as well as cause them to hide behind tanks and shoot through them using it like sort of a moveable bunker.

Wolfgang Mozart · 2012-10-23, 07:28 PM

Leave all FF on except friendly vehicles VS friendly ground troops. Or at least nerf the hell out of friendly vehicles VS friendly ground troops. Its insane for someone to lose all their health when something idles into them.

VaderShake · 2012-10-23, 08:42 PM

FF is a must to have in PS2, I watched them rip friendly fire out of the battlefield franchise which played it's part effectively dumbing down the game resulting in players spraing and praying and requiring no thought/skill while in a fire fight.

Yea, it sucks when someone runs in front of you and they can do something aboutspawning vehicles the same place everryone is running in and out of in a base, bet really it forces you to keep your wits about you and not be careless. (like my typing in this post)

Again FF is a must....

Crator · 2012-10-23, 08:52 PM

^ My only thought on this, is it in the best interest of a F2P FPS to put restrictions on being able to play the game? Seems to me it would just turn away customers.

Lonehunter · 2012-10-23, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by EVILoHOMER

remove FF..

Now I'm sure I know I shouldn't click on any of your threads. Friendly Fire has been talked to death, and if you seriously don't understand why we need it you need to go back to {Insert Mainstream FPS here}