NC, Miller, not happy

[Canaris]

Originally Posted by basti

MY god what is this? 2004?

NC: seriously, would you stop whining already?

There is exactly ONE reason why you lost Eisa: ITS YOUR FAULT! Yes, your fault personally, NC reader.

Instead of whining about how underpowered NC are, how much your number suck, and how bad every other NC is, FIX IT YOURSELF!

sorry to break it to you Basti but you should expect at least another full years worth of whining from poor players over their tools not being sharp enough. Remember keep calm and keep moving slowly towards the strudel

[Mox]

Originally Posted by basti

MY god what is this? 2004?

NC: seriously, would you stop whining already?

There is exactly ONE reason why you lost Eisa: ITS YOUR FAULT! Yes, your fault personally, NC reader.

Instead of whining about how underpowered NC are, how much your number suck, and how bad every other NC is, FIX IT YOURSELF!

Sorry basti but no one has said a word about the NC being underpowered.
This thread is about players who only care about their k/d ratio. By the way thats not a NC-specific issue.

[Mavvvy]

Originally Posted by basti

MY god what is this? 2004?

NC: seriously, would you stop whining already?

There is exactly ONE reason why you lost Eisa: ITS YOUR FAULT! Yes, your fault personally, NC reader.

Instead of whining about how underpowered NC are, how much your number suck, and how bad every other NC is, FIX IT YOURSELF!

To be fair Basti, I don't believe anyone mentioned NC being underpowered in this thread (we certainly are not imo anyway), its more about attitude.

Concerning numbers your right, no point whining about something you cant control, asides from trying to recruit into NC outfits on the server.

[Infernalis]

Originally Posted by Mod

FYI the numbers seen on the continent terminal are the territory you own rather than your population. That isn't made very clear ingame so thought I would point it out.

I didn't know about that, I really thought we had so few territories because of our low pop and lack of outfits (and maybe our weapons a little up) but if it's the territories it's even worse than I thought...

[RSphil]

Originally Posted by basti

MY god what is this? 2004?

NC: seriously, would you stop whining already?

There is exactly ONE reason why you lost Eisa: ITS YOUR FAULT! Yes, your fault personally, NC reader.

Instead of whining about how underpowered NC are, how much your number suck, and how bad every other NC is, FIX IT YOURSELF!

im not saying we are under powered, never even mentioned it. i like NC we have good weapons when you know hoe to use them.

it is part the NC's fault yes. people not listening is a big part but worrying about K/D is the biggest. a small part though is /re not fecking working all the time. that is annoying when you cant type mission details out with out everyone knowing.

NC need to pull their finger and the large outfits that said they where on miller need to either show them selfs or get organized. my outfit is a small support/ spec ops but a few little poeple wont make much difference when the rest have no order. if they dont want to fight th ewar to win then they should go back to bf3 or cod tbh. hope the K/D ratio lot get weeded out soon and the real fighters show up.

[Mavvvy]

Originally Posted by RSphil

im not saying we are under powered, never even mentioned it. i like NC we have good weapons when you know hoe to use them.

it is part the NC's fault yes. people not listening is a big part but worrying about K/D is the biggest. a small part though is /re not fecking working all the time. that is annoying when you cant type mission details out with out everyone knowing.

NC need to pull their finger and the large outfits that said they where on miller need to either show them selfs or get organized. my outfit is a small support/ spec ops but a few little poeple wont make much difference when the rest have no order. if they dont want to fight th ewar to win then they should go back to bf3 or cod tbh. hope the K/D ratio lot get weeded out soon and the real fighters show up.

The outfit I'm in is also small on the support side to. If you want send me a friend request (same name as on here) and maybe we could pool our resources!!

[Fear The Amish]

Originally Posted by basti

MY god what is this? 2004?

NC: seriously, would you stop whining already?

There is exactly ONE reason why you lost Eisa: ITS YOUR FAULT! Yes, your fault personally, NC reader.

Instead of whining about how underpowered NC are, how much your number suck, and how bad every other NC is, FIX IT YOURSELF!

lol All us VS are laughing at you now you know? because we dealt with it for 9 years of PS1 and most of the beta... GET BETTER!

[Thunderhawk]

I dont think anyone's complaining about NC weapons and balance, just NC's stupidity

My biggest problem on Miller at the moment is that the NC seem to have lost all their good outfits to the TR ?! just seems like there are no good tactical leaders out there on your side.

Not trying to be a Troll or anything, really am not, but prime example is the pain on Amerish where the TR are zerging up, and what do the NC do ? they are attacking Westwards from Sungrey......

It's very hard for us to ask the VS to focus on the TR only as they have 70% of the map when we're being attacked by the NC muppets from their Warpgate.

Can the NC start organising please and start looking at the map and thinking who has the bigger advantage and who should be attacked?

This stands for all maps, start playing "intelligently"

[Hermes]

Odd post Basti. Maybe take a break from the official forums Can only guess you've read so much whine there that you broke halfway through reading his post missing the intent.

He has a good point too, NC Miller seem to evaporate when we are disadvantaged - at least more than I saw in beta or remember from PS1. Perhaps i've just forgotten.


If they really need a stat for those that thrive off leaderboard play - wouldn't kills per hour be a better motivator the game? Would encourage people to play the battle that's available rather than camp it out for risk free kills.

Even as a lover of support play and empire tactics I find it really hard to switch off from my k/d. The other advantage of kills per hour is it doesn't rub your face in it how many times you died playing support or working on a vital yet dangerous objective.

[Figment]

Well turns out most CR5s on Miller NC never heard of /orders.


Unsurprisingly, because the game communicates these commands so well. Started using that command today on Esamir. Starts shaping things up a little, NC zerg listens decently if you address them with a plan.

/leader chat is far too dead still though, feel as though very few players invested in the command channel so far.

[Sledgecrushr]

I guess its the same old mantra even though it holds true. Get organized. If your small outfit feels too small in these tremendous battles then thats probably true and you will need to grow. If you find that your leader doesnt play enough to have any impact in the outfits growth and well being then its time to find a new outfit.

[Figment]

It is more a matter of empire coordination, being in the tough spot for getting double teamed and having slightly less accurate weapons that cost many a victory...

That said, we really need to promote outfits to get active on leader channels, cause it seems they are all busy with their own issues, don't know who else is out there and what they are doing. We need cont commanders and outfit coordination.

Hence why we decided to revive the NCWA. Mostly for events and networking. Already got into contact with more players outside of the platoon with a few contalls than in the week before.

Of course, cr5s of old need to feel comfortable with leading again. Doesn't help if there is little meta games and few information is available and when few command systems established. We need sitreps, zergherders and more.

Working /re (name it /b!) would be nice too...

[Figment]

Btw are you aware that since the platoon leader does not have to be a squad leader, you can have five people per platoon in /leader chat?

[basti]

Originally Posted by Figment

Well turns out most CR5s on Miller NC never heard of /orders.


Unsurprisingly, because the game communicates these commands so well. Started using that command today on Esamir. Starts shaping things up a little, NC zerg listens decently if you address them with a plan.

/leader chat is far too dead still though, feel as though very few players invested in the command channel so far.

Have fun using it for about 3 days.

When i heard of the command, i did two things: PSAs to the Zerg, telling them stuff, and a tell to Ostekake to spread the word about /orders. I didnt know any NC tho, so could send a tell to anyone.

Now, a few days since i know about orders, a few days after i told folks to get the cert if they are leading squads, and the chat went is about to go to shit. I have no hope that the VS can sustain a basic level of usefulness for /leader and /orders, given how easy it is to get into it.

Higs or whoever, when you read this: Rework the Leader Cert stuff completly. /leader chat doesnt need to be expensive, it need to be a one time choice between the chat and something else that everyone wants (Orbital Strike i assume). Because right now, its about to become a nice little chat channel to spam.

And for the love of god, fix /re.

Hermes: Aye, your right. Reading the official forums makes me mad. Stopping that now, to much crap there, its pretty much melting someones brain.
Redditside is going down the drain as well. Lets hope PSU stays good.

[Hermes]

Nice to see some orders broadcasted on Esa today. Especially the sundy shield crashing - that tech plant can become really deadlocked without co-ordination. Especially with poor sunderer placement.

Hopefully the leadership/mission stuff will overhaul the command system a bit, as by that time the amount of broadcasters can only invite the type of spam and acrimony people we are fearing.