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Old 2013-02-08, 09:58 PM   [Ignore Me] #16
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Re: How many people call the Sunderer an "AMS" still?


Yeah I would kind of prefer if AMS was it's own vehicle too. The Sunderer is like 5 vehicles in one right now, and apparently they want to add even more **** to it according to Roadmap.

I also facepalm that they didn't bring back the invisibility field. Then when people get killed spawning at the AMS they decide it's a problem so there must be spawn invulnerability. Maybe people would not have gotten spawn camped so hard if they were harder to find SOE? Nah easier to just make the thing a minifortress with invincible defenders lol.
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Old 2013-02-08, 10:41 PM   [Ignore Me] #17
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Deliberately use AMS opposed to Sundy-AMS or S-AMS, as I still would like to see them as separate vehicles.
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Old 2013-02-08, 10:49 PM   [Ignore Me] #18
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I personally like the all-in-one-ness of it. I'd like the invisibility field as certable in the same tree as the ammo-restoking/repair.

I like that the AMS can be deployed and be armed, but I wish there was maybe a cert to add 2 more guns in the same tree as the AMS so it could be more bang-bussy.

Normally I use AMS/Sundy interchangeably and BangBus if we are loading it up with a squad to go you know Bang stuff.

*oh and I used to play PS1 with a guy that called AMS's "MPB's" sometimes terms die hard.

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Old 2013-02-08, 11:03 PM   [Ignore Me] #19
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Originally Posted by Figment View Post
Deliberately use AMS opposed to Sundy-AMS or S-AMS, as I still would like to see them as separate vehicles.
Agreed, but only if it was kinda on the weak side in armor if they get the cloak bubbles/shields. Could even be a cert option. Either leave it as a cloaking bubble that can only be used for a limited time and each upgrade make that deploy timer longer (up to around 20 minutes and can only take 1-2 rockets if it is even a solid thing for enemy fire) or turn it into a shield that can be seen easier and have its upgrade to take more hits (say up to 5 tanks worth of HP). Once the bubble is gone the AMS has the same armor as an ESF (none). Self debating on to have the bubble repairable or put it on a cool down if lost.
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Old 2013-02-09, 12:15 AM   [Ignore Me] #20
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I think it's better to call them AMS for the sake of the new players. A squad leader might say, "We need a sundy near point A!" and Joe Noob replies, "OK I'm on it!". And the he pulls up his non S-AMS Sunderer to point A.

That confusion will always be avoided by calling them by AMS.
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Old 2013-02-09, 01:52 AM   [Ignore Me] #21
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I think it's better to call them AMS for the sake of the new players. A squad leader might say, "We need a sundy near point A!" and Joe Noob replies, "OK I'm on it!". And the he pulls up his non S-AMS Sunderer to point A.

That confusion will always be avoided by calling them by AMS.
That would be the fault of the SQ and not the newb. I never call for a sundy without saying AMS unless it's just for transport. Even for enemy vehicles I try to look for that AMS tit on parked sundies before calling forces to fuck it up as it could be a decoy. I need my men at the gates and gens if there's a shield buster or if the fight is getting so hairy that the enemy has transports at a flank.

Orders need to be clear or they wont do any good. Also a "noob" wont bother to pull a sundy, only the "newb". Noobs are asshats that get you killed, newbs are the guys trying to learn a game.
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Old 2013-02-09, 01:56 AM   [Ignore Me] #22
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Originally Posted by Sifer2 View Post
Yeah I would kind of prefer if AMS was it's own vehicle too. The Sunderer is like 5 vehicles in one right now, and apparently they want to add even more **** to it according to Roadmap.

I also facepalm that they didn't bring back the invisibility field. Then when people get killed spawning at the AMS they decide it's a problem so there must be spawn invulnerability. Maybe people would not have gotten spawn camped so hard if they were harder to find SOE? Nah easier to just make the thing a minifortress with invincible defenders lol.
I would prefer them to be separate vehicles as well, but I don't think an invisibility bubble would really help that much. If an AMS is in use there are always going to be troops streaming out of it (and thus, the bubble) as such, they would remain highly visible. It would just take another couple seconds to pinpoint their exact location.
Now, forward (or defensive) AMS that are deployed but not currently in use...
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Old 2013-02-09, 04:35 AM   [Ignore Me] #23
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Originally Posted by Ghoest9 View Post
I call them an AMS when they are deployed some times. But in general i call them Sundies.
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Old 2013-02-09, 09:12 AM   [Ignore Me] #24
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Advanced Mobile Spawn.
Or
Advance Mobile Station?

It was one of those 2 im pretty sure it was the first.

A sundy is a totally differnt vech but because SOE were too lazy to create another vech specifically for an AMS were stuck with this hybrid POS.
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Old 2013-02-09, 09:32 AM   [Ignore Me] #25
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I do.

It's not just because I am used to it, it's simply sensibly to do it. Saying bring a Sundy it open to misinterpretation while 'bring a sundy AMS' contains a superfluous and unnecessary word.
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Old 2013-02-09, 01:51 PM   [Ignore Me] #26
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Still call them sundies
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Old 2013-02-09, 06:41 PM   [Ignore Me] #27
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I call it suisse army knife, because of its versatility. And because mine is red and army-knife shaped. And i'm fairly certain it also has a button for a cheese grater somewhere that i just haven't found yet.

Other than that, "sundy" or "ams".
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Old 2013-02-09, 06:42 PM   [Ignore Me] #28
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I call them sundaes
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Old 2013-02-09, 07:19 PM   [Ignore Me] #29
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Originally Posted by Graywolves View Post
I call them sundaes
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Old 2013-02-10, 01:11 AM   [Ignore Me] #30
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TEST calls the sundies.
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