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Old 2013-04-21, 06:43 PM   [Ignore Me] #16
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Re: So basically the game is still broken?


spawncamping should be modified to allow for killable spawntubes that require repairs after being destroyed. like in ps1...
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Old 2013-04-21, 10:20 PM   [Ignore Me] #17
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Re: So basically the game is still broken?


I see that fast ROF weapons are king in everyone else's view, but I prefer the heavy-hitters like the Gauss SAW & AC-X11 myself. I've tried the fast-shooters like the Blitz and GD-7F but they are so shitty at range and at close range I'd be better off using a shotgun or just not getting close at all. And for my heavy, the Gauss SAW has the highest damage-per-clip of any stock LMG combined with incredible accuracy... it'll hold a door from 7+ guys just like any other LMG.

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Old 2013-04-21, 11:22 PM   [Ignore Me] #18
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Re: So basically the game is still broken?


Originally Posted by p0intman View Post
spawncamping should be modified to allow for killable spawntubes that require repairs after being destroyed. like in ps1...
... ... Maybe... I'm fine with leaving it as is. But would not argue against changing it to destroyable spawn tubes either. But I think in some bases they need to redesign the spawn tube locations if they can be destroyed. As some of them might be a little bit too easy to destroy otherwise.
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Old 2013-04-21, 11:34 PM   [Ignore Me] #19
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Why not just drop your mines, and shoot them.
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Old 2013-04-22, 12:53 AM   [Ignore Me] #20
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I'd agree to the title, but not most of the reasons you posted.

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Old 2013-04-22, 01:01 AM   [Ignore Me] #21
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NC guns are worse? You must have only played this game for half a hour...
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Old 2013-04-22, 01:10 AM   [Ignore Me] #22
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1. Thank god.

2. They are unbalanced. NC has massive populations. The weapon are not unbalanced. 2 words: Gauss SAW.

3. Try before you buy center. That's it.

4. They are. So how does that make anything broken? lol

5. Haven't had much issue here anymore. Sundy spawn invincibility really helped things.
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Old 2013-04-22, 02:18 AM   [Ignore Me] #23
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Firstly you think the games broken because of Nc weapons lol. You will NEVER fix spawn camping, its been happening since BF1942. Hell even before that!

I laugh when someone says Nc weapons suck.. its generally that players individual skill that does, NC weapons are great, they don't suffer horrid recoil of tr guns because of rof, they have high velocity rounds.. guass rifle is 650 that's in the top 5 fastest guns in the game. They do tons of dmg which helps kill your enemy fast with burst dps. If you have trouble playing as Nc.. that factions playstyle isn't for u then.
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Old 2013-04-22, 08:33 AM   [Ignore Me] #24
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broken is your head
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Old 2013-04-22, 08:58 AM   [Ignore Me] #25
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Re: So basically the game is still broken?


Originally Posted by FreeSpeech View Post
After taking a break for them to sort out the many issues with PS2, we come back after a giant patch or 3!

(1) Anti Tank mines don't seem to detonate when you place them under a parked Sunderer any more - great bug that

(2) NC vs TR & VS balance is still unaddressed - the NC guns basically suck ass vs anything in comparison on the other two factions. Engineers in particular are simply outgunned regardless of which carbine you use.

(3) VR room is nice, but doesn't actually help in the end due to the balance issue above.

(4) Cosmetic differences are nice.

(5) Spawnkilling still an issue.


So essentially the game is still broken. . . .
1) It was an intentional change (and a good one imo). Sunderers needed better survivability.

2) Yeah, its' because NC is the most popular faction. I've stopped griping about our weaknesses. Instead, i'll wait for the MLG tournaments. That's a better message to SOE to balance the factions TR and NC differ by not much. It's the Vanu that's severely buffed. They just buffed the Magriders and Vanu weapons on the last GU.

3) Yeah, moving VR NPCs / Vehicles would be a better simulation.

4) TRay tweeted that there would be different faction models eventually. The devs in general have talked in the past about different walk animations etc. I also believe there would be more "asymmetrical" balancing for the faction in the future. Just check out the new Max abilities that should be coming out soon. Also if you haven't seen the new faction-specific-rocket-launcher, check that out too in the VR.

5) They've shut down some windows of the spawnrooms which is bad, in particular Ti Alloys, which is bad. But in general, like the Amp Station and Tech plants, there are plenty of holes you can come out off. Have you seen the tunnels leading out the major facility spawn rooms?
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Old 2013-04-22, 10:00 AM   [Ignore Me] #26
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Re: So basically the game is still broken?


Whatever the balance discussion here by no means this game is "broken". Broken means that a game becomes unplayable.
Fact is that since the OP has left the game it has become more playable than ever before. Weapon balance has improved considerably and is more infantry focused, performance has increased for many, the new Alert system is a breath of fresh air, GUI is a lot better now and quite a few cool toys were added.

And NC being the most popular faction on many servers is not exactly a sign of their guns "basically suck ass vs anything in comparison on the other two factions".
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Old 2013-04-22, 10:31 AM   [Ignore Me] #27
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Originally Posted by FreeSpeech View Post
(2) NC vs TR & VS balance is still unaddressed - the NC guns basically suck ass vs anything in comparison on the other two factions. Engineers in particular are simply outgunned regardless of which carbine you use.
You know, for a second there I thought you were going to say something useful. Then you said that NC guns suck ass compared to the other factions. BAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA. I think you landed on the wrong Araxis buddy. Do you know how to play the game? I can't remember when NC weren't overpowered.

Out of the VS and TR, I'm not to decide which one is better. But having a 200 damage LMG as a stock weapon, dude you need to just sit down and shut up.

Gauss SAW for Carv? Deal. Mercenary for Trac 5? Deal. Bolt Driver for 99SV? I'd like my 100 certs back. Gauss rifle for T1 Cycler? Mhmm. Scattercannon for cycler. FUCK YES.

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Old 2013-04-22, 12:03 PM   [Ignore Me] #28
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Thought I would just post in this troll thread... OP hasn't posted since the first time.

Only legitimate issue that was brought up is spawn camping.. but they have done a lot to try to make this better. It's still not perfect, but miles better than it was before.
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Old 2013-04-22, 12:28 PM   [Ignore Me] #29
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Re: So basically the game is still broken?


Broken? No, not even close. I dislike it when people use the word "broken" incorrectly when it comes to video games... Along with "half finished".
The game is not currently "broken" in any shape or form. The only times one could make the argument was when a patch introduced instability across the board.

The only issue that I agree with is the spawncamping.
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Old 2013-04-22, 12:32 PM   [Ignore Me] #30
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I think the problem with PS2 is more fundamental than it's unbalanced weapons and classes.

The problem with PS2 is that it's become very infantry-oriented. There are other games out there that handle infantry combat MUCH better than PS2 can.
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