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2013-06-23, 05:31 AM | [Ignore Me] #1 | ||
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now i can really only stay in the nudget of like 1400- 1600$ and i am not buying anything online because well i dont have a credit card and i wanted to buy the new razer blade but cant buy it in any stores i know of so if you guys can give me either some good specs or some good laptops. (i will buy one online if there is the option to assemble it yourself) thanks!
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2013-06-23, 08:49 AM | [Ignore Me] #3 | ||
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Hey there willio, planetside 2 is a very very demanding game and most laptops have NO chance of running it.. The razer blade has 0% chance of running it on high-ultra settings. Also i doubt u will get good frames on that thing even on low settings in a huge battle due to the CPU bottleneck.
Jonny does have a point, laptops need to be overclocked and run hard to play something like planetside 2 on decent graphics settings above 30-40 frames. Heating can be an issue, but if u get a laptop with new Nvidia Kepler chips (GTX 670MX for example) you can Overclock as MUCH as you want, get amazing performance and have almost no heating problems ) I have an Asus G75-VW (specs are in my sig) and have been playing planetside 2 since the first day of the Tech test .. Currently running the game overclocked on ULTRA settings with 100% render quality (only shadows is on medium) and it runs absolutley flawlessly 40-70 fps, goes down to 25-35 in INTENSE battles where everyone gets cpu bottlenecked and that can be fixed with a small decrease of render quality to 95% ), Only thing is ps2 particularly really heats up my laptop :S and i hit around 75-80 degrees on a daily basis lol, but its fine the GPU+CPU cant take it . So basically, whoever said laptops cant run PS2 maxed out is an idiot.. I agree that it is not the best bang for the buck as you cannot upgrade but its a good choice for the mobile gamer who wants the FULL experience.. Now i have just bought a friend of mine the newer version of the Asus G75, The G75-VX. This comes with the new kepler chip (GTX 670MX) which can be wayyyy more overclocked and runs much cooler, also its has alot more cuda cores so it performs like 15% better than mine. This costed him approximatly £1500 and that was like 5 months ago, price is probably even cheaper now. Best thing is, his laptop fully OC'd playing ps2 rarely even hits 75degrees lol.. very cool for a laptop.. Anyways if u get the G75VX you will have 0 problems running any games let alone PS2 on MAXX/Ultra settings. The best part about the VX model is that it comes with a thunderbolt port, which basically means that in the near future you can just pickup a desktop graphcis cars and plug it into ur machines, set it up n BANG u have 2 graphics card n u have succesfully future proofed your laptop ) If u want to look into something else but similar specs, you need to consider to main things to run ps2, you need a high end graphics card which is kepler based, so u can overclock high without heat problems.. Also you need to get something with very very powerful CPU like i7-3+++QM series.. Stick with Nvidia and Intel n u shud be fine.. Hope it helps man ! Last edited by hashish; 2013-06-23 at 08:55 AM. |
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2013-06-23, 11:32 AM | [Ignore Me] #4 | ||
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As I am travelling a lot I had to get a gaming laptop in order to satisfy my gaming needs.
I got a machine from Medion: the Erazer x781X. I can run Planetside 2 with good frames, generally over 45 in big battles. Otherwise 70+ (up to 100). Only twice have I seen FPS drop to 0(!)! that forced me to wait for a couple of minutes before everything normalized; and I'm still not sure what caused this. Otherwise, I play Battlefield 3 with a stable 100+ FPS with lower-ish settings. The machine itself is quite big and heavy; but otherwise it doesn't have downsides as far as I can think. Hope this helps. =] |
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2013-06-23, 05:15 PM | [Ignore Me] #5 | ||
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It's interesting to hear that the kepler chips can actually run cool on a laptop.
I made the terrible mistake of getting an Alienware laptop for gaming (I also needed something mobile and powerful) only to have it blue screen after a year. The cause was overheating, the GPU just couldn't handle it for a long period of time. That having been said, I do believe that laptops can run a game like PS2 on high settings. While I had my M15x it was a beast of a machine and did everything I asked of it. Unfortunately it lacked endurance and while it performed mostly to its price, it did not last more than a year and change. Here's the thing. A gaming laptop is only "mobile" in the sense that it is very easy to transport from one destination to the next (home to work) (home to school) (home to hotel room). Unfortunately, a gaming laptop with the kind of hardware needed to run a game like Planetside is going to come with weight problems. While on the spec sheet it may not look "heavy" being only around 10 pounds or so, I can tell you right now you don't want that sucker in a messenger bag. If you have to carry it with you all day, it's not really "mobile" especially if you have other binders or books that add to the weight of your bag. Make sure you have a laptop case that looks more like a backpack otherwise putting all of that weight on one shoulder is really not good for you. (it's not good on two shoulders unless you're in good shape to start with) If you're using it as both a gaming laptop and something for work or school, it's really not optimal. If you travel a lot for business, you really can't play online games on hotel internet, unless you're staying at some high end hotels that provide more than just enough bandwidth to let you browse the internet. Internet cafe's are usually not much better, though if you can consistently find one that suits your needs then this problem is alleviated. Seeing as you used the dollar sign I'm assuming you live in North America. Unless you're in a major city or college town, you're not going to find very many good internet cafes. All your hardware will count for nothing if you're on a terrible wireless connection. For school, it's not something you'll find yourself wanting to lug to class, meaning it's just going to sit in your room anyway. My advice, especially given your budget, is to throw together a desktop for around $900 (probably will run PS2 quite well) and then grab a decent laptop for your work needs. It's not that you couldn't get a good gaming laptop for the price you're asking, but the conditions in which it would be actually useful are minimal. Building a computer is actually really easy. The only challenge is ensuring the parts are compatible. This website has a forum that can help make sure you have compatible parts or the absolute go-to sight for that kind of thing is http://www.tomshardware.com/. I strongly encourage you to reconsider purchasing a gaming laptop. They're getting better both on the price for performance front and the mobility front, but they really are a luxury item for the most part. If you play offline games on it as you travel, like say Skyrim, I could understand wanting one. But if you want a gaming laptop for PS2, you had better understand the drawbacks. Last edited by OctavianAXFive; 2013-06-23 at 05:18 PM. |
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2013-06-23, 10:51 PM | [Ignore Me] #7 | ||
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I use a Sager NP9750 (the 17" one)
2.4 Ghz Intel Ivy Bridge Quad Nvidia GeForce 680M 12 Gb 1600 Mhz DDR3 RAM Runs everything at max detail settings, lowest framerates average (depending on game) 50-120 FPS. No heating problems, no overclocking, and everything works perfectly. I have a friend with a 670M who reports similar very good performance (although not quite as good as mine). My laptop outperforms my brother's gaming rig (a decent mid range one revolving around a 3.4 Ghz quad and Nvidia 560) |
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2013-06-23, 11:12 PM | [Ignore Me] #8 | ||
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Yeah like RedOctober said get a Clevo (Sager is a Clevo). I play PS2 on a 2 year old Clevo P170HM (17") and I get 60 fps on medium/high with a 485m.
Something you should know about Clevo is that there are a lot of retailers. You have Xotic PC, Malibal, etc. Clevo is the base container and retailers sell them and customize them with hardware and screens. It's important to look around. At work I use a Clevo P170EM. I recommend Malibal personally, but Xotic PC is good if you want custom graphics on the laptop casing. Basically research all the Clevo retailers. You might find one in your state. Usually cheap and really good hardware. The new ones have Optimus support also to increase their battery life. (You can't play PS2 without plugging in though).
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2013-06-23, 11:39 PM | [Ignore Me] #9 | ||
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And, by the way, is the latest 780m available in a Clevo yet? The fastest cards I've seen yet for Clevos in SLI are the 680m's.
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2013-06-23, 11:47 PM | [Ignore Me] #10 | ||
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No laptop is better then a stationary computer for gaming... So what is a good gaming laptop? It's like... I rather buy a Ford Mondeo (laptop) then a Ferrari F430 (stationary) for the track race (gaming) even though the Ford will cost me x2 more money then the Ferrari.
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2013-06-24, 12:23 AM | [Ignore Me] #11 | ||
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Laptops can handle PS2, but you need to make sure it has an i7 or i5 with a NVIDIA integrated graphics chip. Why do I insist on NVIDIA for laptops? Simple, they pay game companies ahead of time to make sure games work well with their hardware. PS2 is one of those games.
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2013-06-24, 12:47 AM | [Ignore Me] #12 | ||
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What Sunrock said. And I'm a laptop-only guy since 2005. Or, BECAUSE I'm a laptop-only guy since 2005.
The only reasons to go laptop is because you already have a nuclear tower at home and want the luxury of an awesome laptop also, or, if you don't have a permanent dwelling and are on the move a lot. However, if you must have a laptop, how about this Asus, hot off the presses, for 1399 bux. Fourth-gen Intelchatecture, a seven-series video card. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...irtualParent=1 Or the MSI awesomeness with triple RAID 0 128GB SSD's plus a jumbo HDD for storage! Fourth-gen intelchatecture, 32GB of RAM and the fastest mobile video card extant: the NVidia 780m. Backlit keyboard, etc. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834152395 2699 dollars or so.
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2013-06-24, 06:32 PM | [Ignore Me] #13 | ||
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I'm just not sure how much he's going to get out of a $1400-1600 laptop. That's a good deal of money to dump into a tower but for a laptop that's not going to get him too far.
Honestly OP it would be immensely helpful if you told us exactly why you need a gaming laptop as that will help us inform you of the best choice for your particular needs. A lot of the time when I hear someone wants a gaming laptop is because they are heading off to college and think it will be convenient. More often than not the opposite is true. |
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2013-06-24, 06:53 PM | [Ignore Me] #14 | ||
I flew 150,000 miles in two years in my early consulting days. There are most certainly use cases for a gaming laptop. You just pay out the ying-yang to get equivalent performance in anything approaching a reasonable form factor.
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