Why this game needs old bitter vets

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Originally Posted by Emperor

Correct me if I'm reading a bit into this, but the OP's post seems to skirt just shy of saying that new players are going to be rabble that the old guard needs to keep in line. While I definitely don't disagree that this game is going to get a large number of players who want instant gratification, don't know about tactics, and will need other players to put them in line, I don't like the assertions that these are "accepted norms" and that it's going to be solely on "bitter vets" to drill this out of people.

The players you described are simply bad players. Every team-based game has its share of people who contribute in no meaningful way, grab their guns and rush off without heed so they can get their first blood and kill streaks and what have you. This might not be because someone is new to a franchise, this might just be the way someone plays. Sometimes you can change that by showing them the value of teamwork; sometimes you can't.

This does not mean, however, that all new players are going to be like this. Again, correct me if I'm wrong on the message the OP was making, I might be looking at it a bit defensively since this will be my first foray into Planetside, but I think the onus isn't on just Planetside vets, it's on good players, period. There are players who will be coming into the game who know the value of teamwork, who know a thing or two about ops and tactics--perhaps not on as grand a scale, but certainly the foundation is there, the mentality is there.

Just please be aware that not all new players coming into Planetside are going to be trolls, racists, or bads with Rambo mentalities. Nor should it fall squarely on old Planetside players to try and work with those players; it should fall on the community as a whole. We really shouldn't be segregating ourselves into "vets" and "newbs," but rather team-oriented players and those who aren't.

noted. i appreciate your point of view.