My look on it? Get a sony mini disc player. Unless you have 20 gigs of music that you want on hand to listen to and 400 bucks, those iwhatevers are just a waste of money
The mini disc players can fit around....70 or so songs per disc, and they're easy to carry with you.
Edit: not to mention they take 1 AA battery that lasts for about 8 hours nonstop...
My main reason for not having an iPod/iRiver is that I don't have 20 gigs of music I want on hand to listen to. Hell I don't even have 20 gigs of music total. My entire music collection is about 5 gigs. It'd be cool to use those ipod/rivers as a mini hard drive that you can connect via USB 2 and have 20 gigs of storage space for any kind of file though...but the prices are somewhat ludicrous for 20 gigs of storage as I can buy a 200 gig hard drive for half the price
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