Driver/Gunners... NO!

[Azren]

Originally Posted by sumo

realism vs fun as usual.
this is a sci-fi game and therefore not based in reality. they could just make up some technobabble that tank driver now have a nano helmet of some sort that help them to drive and shoot a tank and at the same time.

i never played ps1. but i do know that in bf3 noone want to take the driver position in the all so powerful and heavily armored troop transporter.

Read the thread fist. Nobody argued to have dedicated gunner and driver because it is more realistic.

The arguments for dedicated d/g setup are along these lines:

• The MBT is the only multi crew ground combat vehicle. A design that does not require a gunner, effectively makes it a solo mashine, thus leaving no option for those people who want the experience of being dedicated gunner or driver
  
• The survivability of the PS2 setup is low because the driver has to split his attention between situational awareness (rocks, trees, enemy positions, friendly positions) and gunning (which requires keeping focused on one spot, making situational awareness low). Add to this the already far faster gameplay which also came at the cost of much lower TTK for MBTs.
  
• Finding a gunner for a vehicle with low survivability will be very hard. For reference, try finding a gunner for a Harrasser in PS1, you will even have a hard time with ES buggies.
  
• The drivergunner setup will encourage a much more stationary gameplay than what we had in PS1. Take PS1 lightings as reference, you will se how they tend to fire from a static position instead of while being mobile. If they do the later, they usually end up hitting a tree or a rock.

Originally Posted by Klockan

That's really biased talk. Half the vehicles are team vehicles and half are solo. Flash, lightning and aircav are strictly solo vehicles while Galaxy, Liberator and Sunderer are strictly team vehicles. The MBT is a mix, it works with a solo guy but its effectiveness is ~doubled with a guy on the top gun so both are viable.

Would it be biased not to count transport and support units as assault vehicles? I didn't think so. If you look at assault vehicles, here is the rundown:

solo - ES aircav
solo - Flash
solo - Lightning
soloable - Liberator
soloable - MBT

I see no vehicles in that list that require a team of two or more peole, do you?