elitess and Planetside

[PR24]

I hopes yous dont minde me im just lerning to spel.

[Tieom]

Watch it, the incoming-Led warning light is flashing. As long as no-one says 'gernades'... aw, (insert expletive here).

[PR24]

Originally posted by PR24
Last night my clan (CDL) had a great convorsation about how PS if different from other games and things that we noticed about players, and I thought I would share some of what we talked about with the community.

When players post that they are looking for a squad a lot seem to think BR means something when really in this game it's not that much.

Planetside is built on a team based aspect and being a cowboy has no place in PS nor will you succeed in PS with that attitude/mind set. I would rather have a BR1 player with a great attitude and a willingness to work as a team then a BR20 that thinks he/she is the "shit" and is 1337.

So many strive (as do we) for BR but the MOST important thing is teamwork and friendship. These 2 qualities in a player can only bring success to you and your clan now and in the future.

So just remember that skill can be learned but a great attitude and teamwork will help a clan a lot more the a BR# with an elitess attitude.

Lets stay on topic. Here was the original post.

[MrVulcan]

*ducks for Led's attack that will be sure to arvie soon due to Tieom's miss spelling of "grenades"*


And I find that and runs are very agraviting and it is very hard to get people to do them, esp when you can spend a long time getting the ant there charged and back only to have it die on its way in the base you were going to charge *argh*

[tmartinez72]

Planetside is built on a team based aspect and being a cowboy has no place in PS nor will you succeed in PS with that attitude/mind set. I would rather have a BR1 player with a great attitude and a willingness to work as a team then a BR20 that thinks he/she is the "shit" and is 1337.

Though I have no problem being in a squad, even a pickup one, the above statement really irks me. That's an elitist attitude to the Nth degree simply by shunning those who don't play well together.

The lone-wolf or cowboy has it's place in Planetside JUST AS MUCH as a squad, regardless fo BR. I play lone-wolf quite a bit. A NUMBER of times I'm there hacking a lone tower, only to see 1 minute later 50 players spawn through to take a nearby facility.

I walked into a ungaurded facility to down the generator. The rapid succession of enemy vehicle spawn dwindles down to nothing.

My favorite thing to do? Drive an AMS to an unguarded facilty (yet not under attack) when I see that a facility ahead is about to become ours. As soon as I see a faclity change into my Empire's hands, I deploy it at the next enemy base. Literally tons of troops spawn through. Talk about moving the front line.

All this done by myself. No chain of command, no orders. Just me causing general havoc and mischief to my enemies.

[Airlift]

I'll take newbies in my squad, but my rule is no helmet, no invite. I don't stop to answer questions that are in the manual and if someone can't keep up with the group then they're kicked.

It doesn't really even matter if you are a skilled combatant. The number one most important thing to me is that you stay with the squad unless executing a specific task that requires you to go off on your own. If I get people who wander a continent or won't stay with the squad, I wish them well and kick them.

I don't require a minimum rank, but I will often advertise for a specific role (hacker, medic, engineer, max, etc. etc.) and take only players who qualify if it is something I need. I don't think I'm an elitist, but I'm not dicking around with people who aren't prepared to play, either.

[BurningSpear]

I agree that BR level doesn't describe skill. However, I *can* see a benefit to displaying your level. Rather than skill, it more accurately represents the number of certs you have. A squad *must* be versatile, and employing a squad with players with lots of certs reinforces this.

[Doppler]

Everyone fights, no one quits, you dont do your job Ill kick you out of the squad myself, possibly the gal too over a large body of water.

In all seriousness though I make no qualms about leaving squads that dont have their stuff together. I'm plagued more often by newbish commanders who wont get their stuff together then actual teammate. Believe it or not I can usualy coax a niave teammate into following along, god knows someone did that for me the first day. All that anyone needs to know reguardless of CL BL is that they need to stay with the squad unless directed (or recieve permision) and to communicate.

[simba]

well said PR.

[Ghoest9]

2 months in and the original post will seem pretty dumb.

In new games you never know what you are playing with(unless you actually know the players before hand). looking at lvl in a new game is all you can do to avoid clueless newbs, but of course you will miss many good players.

2 months in and 2 majors points change.

1 - you actually know people in game.

2 - most people have reasonably high lvls so the so when you see BR4 it will be meaningful(of course the BR4 could be a old player on a new toon, but thats where knowing people helps).

Anyway whining about "lvl discrimination" in a brand new game is kind of dumb.

[SpacemanSpiff]

Here here, PR24. CDL has always been respected by the Fire Ants and this thread just reaffirms such respect. Nicely put, indeed.

[keam02]

The term n00b, imo, is the worst term/insult/name you could call someone. You dont know their experience at all when you see their BR, first of all, second you cannot call anyone a n00b can expect it to be justified because EVERYONE, yes, everyone, were new to the game (notice I am not using n00b), and BR1 :shudder: , and all at one point could be called n00b or whatever. So if you think your somewhat better cause of your BR, you have it seriously wrong, and the person you called a n00b will most likely pass you later because you are too close-minded to even give someone a chance.

Also, what kind of friends do you make calling people n00bs. This game is based on teamwork and if you think you are losing much calling someone a n00b, let me tell you a story.

I had a friend IRL who played Everquest. He basically traded accounts, pissed people off (he thought he was better then everyone else), and then traded some more. One day he tried to steal all the equipment off three character and sell it for real cash. He was caught, of course, when the poeple noticed they had no droppable stuff. So one guy decided he would try to find out somehting about this kid. He got his name, parent's names, phone number, address, acne medication, where his parents worked, where he went to school, pretty much everything, and posted it on a board like this. His EQ name was Gingdied, dono if you EQers remember, but much of the EQ population, cross-server and stuff, saw what happened.

The moral to the story is, dont piss people off, cause it will come back to haunt you, and yes, it will, no matter how 1337 you think you are, it will come back and bite you in the ass.

Ok im gonna stop rambling now............

[Ghoest9]

You are clearly right about 1 thing.

You are rambling.

[LesserShade]

n00b and newbies are two completely seperate things in my book. A newbie is someone that is new to the game, a n00b is someone who acts like an idiot.