FPS... what should we expect?

[Sandtaco]

I run on an geforce 2 soo... I'm kind of concerned if my crappy card will make me lag like hell, or will the card barely affect FPS and lower the graphics? Are concerned with the amount of lag and problems with the FPS?

BTW: What's a decently priced (I have about $160 right now, but I'm going to have to pay for PS too...) graphics card that's better than the crappy geforce 2?

[afex]

i expect to get 1 million frames per second. :o

i'd wait till PS comes out to get a new video card. prices should drop alot when the geforceFX comes out.

[Warborn]

I run on an geforce 2 soo... I'm kind of concerned if my crappy card will make me lag like hell, or will the card barely affect FPS and lower the graphics? Are concerned with the amount of lag and problems with the FPS?

You'll likely have to turn the graphics settings way down to get a respectable FPS.

BTW: What's a decently priced (I have about $160 right now, but I'm going to have to pay for PS too...) graphics card that's better than the crappy geforce 2?

GeForce 3Ti uses DirectX 8.1, so you'll have the functionality of a GeForce 4 but without the power of those cards. Otherwise, I'd say a GeForce 4Ti 4200. But if you have the money to spare, definitely a Radeon 9700. Best card out there.

[Venoxile]

Wait for the Geforcefx like me, it'll be worth the 600-800$. Oh yeahhhh ^^

[Sandtaco]

When does the GF FX come out?

[Civilian]

As it stands now, in large battles, I believe the GeForce2 (I have the GF2 MX 400) would be absolutely horrible. It would probably dip somewhere in the low-teens. As was pointed out in an earlier post, once the GeForce FX is released alot of good graphics cards will see a nice drop in price. The 9700 is the best on the market right now, and you may want to consider picking it up once the game is released.

[Civilian]

The FX is supposed to be released in early-mid February.

[�io]

Yeah i'm going 9700pro or GeForce FX.

My advice wait till at least mid-Feb before buying. Prices will be lower and the FX should be around the corner so if it's not too expensive (ppfff yeah right ) you might wanna check that one out.

[Dragoon412]

There was an article about the Radeon 9700 Pro for some odd reason on Slashdot today, and I wanted to strangle the people who got modded up in the comments section for being so bloody stupid.

Do this:

1. Read this thread.

2. Wait for nVidia to release the FX cards (sometime soon; before PS comes out)

3. Laugh at all the idiots who're spending $500+ on the FX

4. Spend significantly less money on the Radeon 9700 Pro, which will be less expensive at that point (I'd guess in the $200-$250 range).

5. If you can't spend that much on a video card, gut it out with the GF2 until you can, because anything less than that will be a phenomenal waste of time and money (if you read the thread from step 1, you'd see why ).

[Doobz]

the Nvidia cards are MUCH better than the radeon cards.

the FX is structured much better, theres much less bottlenecking of data.

Nvidia cards have 10x better drivers, which matter a WHOLE lot. radeon drivers just SUCK.

the FX will only be 400 dollars on release, not 500.

now im gonna laugh at all the ppl who buy the crappy 9700 compared to the FX

[Navaron]

"the Nvidia cards are MUCH better than the radeon cards.

the FX is structured much better, theres much less bottlenecking of data.

Nvidia cards have 10x better drivers, which matter a WHOLE lot. radeon drivers just SUCK.

the FX will only be 400 dollars on release, not 500.

now im gonna laugh at all the ppl who buy the crappy 9700 compared to the FX"

Now that's the most fact based un opinionated post I've ever read.

[afex]

try using

quotes

instead of ""'s next time.

[Sandtaco]

Yeah... now that I'm even shorter on funds I might be getting the GF4 MX Oh well, it's better than what I have and it should last another year.

[�io]

Do NOT get MX, if you can't afford/don't want an FX or 9700pro get a TI. MX sucks.

[Dragoon412]

Sandtaco, Dio,

Like I was saying, if you can't afford the 9700 Pro, you're better off just saving your money until you can. The GF4 line costs 75% as much and has about 30% of the overall performance, plus doesn't support DX9; it's a very poor investment, especially long-term.

Think of it this way: it's the upgrade cycles that kill you. People that buy top-of-the-line every 18 months actually wind up spending about as much as those people who scrape the bottom of the barrel and have ot upgrade every year. Sure, it may be easier to manage $200 now, and it may be easier to manage $200 again a year from now, but you're better off scrimping together $300 now and sticking with that card for 18-24 months; even on an 18-month cycle where you don't save any money, you'll still get better performance.

The absolute best advice I can give right now (and this is coming from someone who custom-builds computers for a living... sorta) is that you should wait until PS is about to be released until you spend ANY money on computer upgrades. Between the nVidia FX's immminent release (speaking of which, it was ranked in Wired's top 10 pieces of vaporware of 2002 today ) and the overproduction of DDR RAM, prices on the two most performance-enhancing pieces of hardware you can get are going to fall soon.

Doobz,

That post was such utter crap I can't even think of a reply for it.