Tango Report: Joystick support polish

[martyr]

here's what i would have talked about at ATD.

looking for feedback and refinement before i send it across to the people that care.

from my blog:

Originally Posted by tango report

if i do discuss the joystick implementation, i'll make two requests; the ability to disable/override the joystick in the menu (and perhaps a toggle key) and a negative throttle region.

more specifically, i want the joystick to be disabled when i'm on foot, so that if i bail in a right bank, i don't start turning right while i'm falling and when i hit the surface. i was able to abuse the settings to behave this way by setting one axis to 'unknown,' one axis to 'disabled' and one to the twist axis on my stick, then removing the sensitivity on that setting, so inputs wouldn't register.

however, i'm sure some NC besides Hayoo are going to want to play with their joysticks too, and i doubt they'll be able to figure that out. so i think there should be a "disable js" checkbox under each input configuration category (air, ground, hover, soldier, bfr, max, lightning).

as for the negative throttle region... think descent. we should be able to apply reverse thrust as easily as we have been in the past (hitting S, usually) - so that the 0% thrust setting is at around +10%. 100% at 100% and -100% thrust at the 0% setting. i take this assymetrical position because it's not descent exactly, and air vehicles can only reverse as fast as their vertical and strafe speeds, so that 100% reverse thrust in a mosquito is less than 20kph.

there is a flaw here, of course... that is, finding your 0% thrust point (5-15% throttle location if you throw in a nice dead zone). if you aren't willing to fish for it, define a js button to the 0% thrust setting (keyboard thrust settings do override throttle slider axis at this point).

besides these two things that i think are needed... the JS setup interface is spectacular, and i'm thrilled to finally have support for joysticks in the game. it makes flying much more interesting, i had a blast zipping around in VR while calibrating.

[Hayoo]

however, i'm sure some NC besides Hayoo are going to want to play with their joysticks too

[martyr]

hah, you know it's true hayoo. as for the rest of you, thanks for the response. slackers. posted this on the OF

[Baneblade]

Im pissed about not being able to post on the OF.

Ontopic: I am not sure yet how I feel about the joysticks, I will try it of course (and have in Test VR), but I think the mouse is better for my style of flying.

Did you know joysticks can already steer ground vehicles?

[martyr]

joysticks can already be used to control anything in the game, foot soldier and all vehicles.

however, it's binary not analog control, meaning that they aren't "supported" fully and that they do the same thing as pressing keys - just on or off

[Baneblade]

ah, well I din look too far itno it. But I daresay following roads will be easier if you are into that sort of rubbish eheh