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Old 2006-06-08, 09:18 PM   [Ignore Me] #1
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Zarqawi, we got him.

http://www.break.com/movies/baddayzarq.html
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And if you back in 2003 decided you wanted to play RTS games, between then and now you'd have dozens of RTS games you could have played. If you decided to play MMOFPS' between then and now, there were none
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Old 2006-06-08, 09:20 PM   [Ignore Me] #2
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Old 2006-06-09, 12:26 AM   [Ignore Me] #3
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They came. They tried to take all our base. We launched all zig.
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Old 2006-06-09, 01:37 AM   [Ignore Me] #4
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Old 2006-06-09, 08:39 AM   [Ignore Me] #5
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I wonder how he liked playing catch with a couple thousand pound bombs.
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Old 2006-06-09, 09:38 AM   [Ignore Me] #6
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Hmk... so one guy out how many? He's dead... another will take his place.
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Old 2006-06-09, 10:17 AM   [Ignore Me] #7
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Originally Posted by Giovanni
Hmk... so one guy out how many? He's dead... another will take his place.
He was the top dog next to Osama. The article on yahoo news that I read yesterday said that most of his top aides have been taken out over the past year as well.

Who will take his place? Who determines this? You think they have some sort of command structure? If they do, will the next guy be as smart and slippery as Zarqawi? Taking out Zarqawi brings them one step closer to containing the situation.

Maybe the next guy will be just as cunning and ruthless. Maybe the next guy is a complete moron.

A lot of ifs and maybes for Al Queda there when they are trying to win a "war".

Seems there was a pretty big terrorist plot that was uncovered in Toronto - they were looking to take out the (/edit)CBC building. Canadian officials working with U.S. officials headed them off at the pass.

We have to keep shaking them up and catching them off guard.

Sticking your head in the sand is counterproductive and will get people killed.
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Old 2006-06-09, 10:36 AM   [Ignore Me] #8
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Originally Posted by Hamma
I wonder how he liked playing catch with a couple thousand pound bombs.
Two 500lbs bombs
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Old 2006-06-09, 11:39 AM   [Ignore Me] #9
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Ah well, a thousand pounds worth of bombs
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Old 2006-06-09, 12:10 PM   [Ignore Me] #10
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That's a huge amount of ordinance for the two-story house he was hiding in. CNN has the video of the bombs dropping.
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Old 2006-06-09, 12:51 PM   [Ignore Me] #11
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You also have to factor in that Al Qaeda and its supporters are by nature very radical and spiritually zealous people. Zarqawi was practically an idol to them, and thus, with his death, the entire organization will suffer a huge blow in momentum. You can argue that the death of a figurehead doesn't help much, but in this case, he was much more than that. It's the next best thing that could have happened other than Osama himself getting killed.
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Old 2006-06-09, 01:31 PM   [Ignore Me] #12
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But for them... isn't dying as a martyr the greatest honor?

I'm not saying his death is a bad thing. I'm still heading for the army (should be leaving in 3-4 months). I won't be with you guys in Iraq sadly but in a year from there I'll be posted in Afghanistan.

I'm just asking... did his death really do anything significant? Will it truly push them back in their holes due to the blow? Or will it only put a small dent that will only motivate them to push on us even harder?
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Old 2006-06-09, 01:47 PM   [Ignore Me] #13
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But for them... isn't dying as a martyr the greatest honor?
To the average moron on the ground, yes. In other words, if you're an uneducated stupid crunchie, you are CANNON FODDER. They make martyrs out of themselves because they are told this is the right thing to do.

However.

You don't see guys like Bin Laden, Zawahiri, etc serving themselves up to be a martyr, do you? You don't see imams and sheihks and ayatollahs of rock-and-rollas standing around going "Shoot me, infidel!" do you? No. You don't. Because they know the religious law, and have perverted it to their own ends. They have convinced others to do the dying, for their own purposes.
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Old 2006-06-09, 04:38 PM   [Ignore Me] #14
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Originally Posted by Firefly
You don't see guys like Bin Laden, Zawahiri, etc serving themselves up to be a martyr, do you? You don't see imams and sheihks and ayatollahs of rock-and-rollas standing around going "Shoot me, infidel!" do you? No. You don't. Because they know the religious law, and have perverted it to their own ends. They have convinced others to do the dying, for their own purposes.
Perfect.

Friend of mine asked me after seeing this, "So was 2500+ dead troops worth his death?"

To witch I told him, "I wish I could tell you how many lives we prevented him from taking, but we'll never know."
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Old 2006-06-09, 06:25 PM   [Ignore Me] #15
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Originally Posted by Lonehunter187
Friend of mine asked me after seeing this, "So was 2500+ dead troops worth his death?"
Attributing all 2500+ deaths to this guy is essentially the same as attributing them all to bin Laden.
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