[PICS] Electro considers buying... a wagon?!

[Electrofreak]

Yes, a Wagon. But no ordinary Wagon. Ladies and Gents, I introduce to you my latest desire, the '05 Dodge Magnum SXT AWD.

First, heres some pretty pictures from the Dodge website:










Alright so now that's done, let me tell you what makes me even consider a wagon.

First things first, I'm looking to buy the SXT AWD, which means an AWD car with a 3.5L V6. No, not the Hemi 5.7L V8 that is available. I can't afford that unfortunately. However the V6 still puts out a respectable 250 bhp with 250 lb/ft of torque. Factor in the AWD and it's got good spring for a 2-ton car. This is the same engine that goes into the second engine up for the Dodge Charger.

Second, the car I've found that I want to buy is fully loaded. All leather interior, heated leather seats, 8-point adjustable power seats, power windows and locks, tinted windows, keyless entry, remote engine start, 288 watt Boston Acoustic 6 speaker sound system with CD changer and AUX in, rear flip-down 7" LCD screen DVD entertainment center and AUX-IN ports (XBox anyone?), Traction Control, Stability Control, power sunroof / moonroof, 18" brushed aluminum rims, power adjustable pedals, telescoping adjustable steering wheel, autostick manumatic shifting, fog lights, heated mirrors, 72' cubic storage space, advanced dual stage front and passenger airbags, 5 star front and rear crash test ratings... you get the idea. Its pimped out.

And yes, I can afford it. AWD + snow tires + traction and stability control = no more Electro flying through 65 mph speed limit signs into the ditch. Having more than twice the horsepower I currently do also should keep my speed demons happy.

If / when I get it, I'll post the actual pics etc. Its not Hamma's Evo but it's certainly got a sense of luxury. Sitting in the back with the DVD entertainment center flipped down feels like riding in a limo. Now all I need is a chaffeur...

[Mag-Mower]

GTI.

[Electrofreak]

Originally Posted by Mag-Mower

GTI.

eh?

[Peacemaker]

Go for it electro, hows the MPG?

[Mag-Mower]

[Electrofreak]

Oh, that VW piece of poo. 200 hp AFTER turbocharged. Sure, if you like wasting premium grade fuel on an weak engine. You've got turbo lag to deal with, not nearly as much pulling power, not nearly as much room, no AWD, doesn't have half the luxuries and standard equip that the Magnum has. I've also heard those things have terrible reliability and the warranty isn't nealy as good as Dodge's.

Not to mention I think it looks terrible.

No thanks.

EDIT- Peace, its about 25 IIRC with AWD, but, for example, that's with 87 octane. GTI has to use premium fuel IIRC, which means its 32 mpg FWD ends up being just about as expensive.

[OneManArmy]

fuck yea. I like the dode magnum. granted I'd need the hemi even if i had to live in it... but that is still damn nice.

my first car was a wagon. and it was fucking awsome.

[Electrofreak]

Originally Posted by OneManArmy

fuck yea. I like the dode magnum. granted I'd need the hemi even if i had to live in it... but that is still damn nice.

my first car was a wagon. and it was fucking awsome.

God, what I'd give for the 5.7L V8. But that HEMI badge ain't cheap.

[TX3RN0BILL]

You know, that thing has a very unnatural look... as if the rear was just slapped on top...

If you want the real thing, I'd advise you to consider getting the Audi Q7... V12 man, V12...

[Peacemaker]

4.0L v12.... The power you get out of those things is ludicrist compaired to a V6. Its pointless to have a V12.

[Hamma]

I don't have the Evo anymore. Long story

Nice ride, seems practical and lots of features.. I like features.

Hamma sports a Chevy Malibu SS now in electric blue, with pretty much all those features you listed for the Wagon

[Rbstr]

I wrote something long out and then the damn fuze got blow over here.

Anyway compared to the Gti the magnum is slower, 7.5s 0-60 compared to 6.8(and the engine is undertuned, with a simple chip you can be doing 230-240), AWD only helps you accelerate, it doesn't help you slow down or keep from taking a turn to fast, infact it makes both of those things much easier.

I can understand that you don't like the car, but you can't call it a piece of shit by any means(reliablility is only an issue with the MKIV VWs, unfortunatly america was two years behind europe for the release of the MKVs), except that it doesn't project a big enough e/rl-peen or whatever for you.

I'm not saying the magnum is a bad choice, it's gotta lot of cool features, it's not an example of a poorly delivered american car. (Though, what's the point of a DVD screen, and some of those extras are you ever gonna get driven around for long enough periods of time to use it, or do you have kids to entertain? I just don't see the point. much ratehr not get that stuff and spend the money on stuff that counts, intake, exhaust, chip and what not)

Some cars you might want to look at though befoer you go for it: an A4 Avant, a Subaru Forester/Legacy wagon - you can get the WRX engine in them, a 3 series Wagon. Also the VW r32 is coming here in a 4door 250HP, DSG tranny AWD and crazy comfort.

I took a test drive in a Forester wiht the turbo 4, and man that thing could pull + subaru's AWD is probably the best non-premium brand AWD out there.

[Kam]

Considering american car companies are losing more money every year, I'd buy the Audi. I saw a few in Germany and they are nice cars.

Also, http://www.bmwusa.com/vehicles/3/328...swagon/default

[Mag-Mower]

I like any European car, really. They seem to have a timeless style.

[Peacemaker]

Originally Posted by Rbstr

Anyway compared to the Gti the magnum is slower, 7.5s 0-60 compared to 6.8(and the engine is undertuned, with a simple chip you can be doing 230-240), AWD only helps you accelerate, it doesn't help you slow down or keep from taking a turn to fast, infact it makes both of those things much easier.

Youve never acctualy worked on a car have you rob? Or driven Hi preformance. No chip makes anything go 230 mph. The fastest bikes out there struggle to top 210 - 215.

People spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to break 220. The 1970 Dodge charger Im working on will probably NEVER get that fast and I could fit an engine 25 - 40% larger in. You aint bustin 200 in that thing. End of story.

Oh yea, AWD does more than that. AWD will slow you down faster. Especialy if your driving a standard. As you let off the gas all 4 wheels get resistance from the engine and the breaks resulting in a faster deceleration. My Charger can stop in about 90 ft from 70. If I break AND use the clutch breaking I can stop in about 45. You also run a lower risk of locking up the tires in an AWD even with ABS which can still lock up.

AWD in a turn means your tires wont lose all traction completly, as they spin they will grip the road better. Once again less chance of spinning out with the AWD as the whole "wheels that slip to the wheels that grip" mechanism kicks in.