Combat Engineering

[LordReaver]

I feel it's a safe assumption that CE will make PSN, so without further ado...



Spitfires should go underground when they are not firing. This stop friendly vehicles from running over them and destroying them. It also "cloaks" them without making them lame. You can still see they are there, and can still kill them. (I have to admit, I would miss spitbombs )

Cerberus Turrets need to be removed entirely. Aircraft have enough to worry about.

Shadow Turrets Remove due to redundancy (see spitfires).

Wall Turrets should be all over the walls, not just corners and gates. They should be easily killable and easily repairable.

One Man Turrets Remove due to redundancy (see bunkers below)

Motion Sensors should hide underground when a vehicle comes near them (even enemy), or just be small enough to drive over without hurting them, again, this stops vehicles from running over and destroying them.

Boomers need to be circular. Triangles are way to easy to spot.

Mines need to be deployed in groups. It doesn't have to be large groups, three at a time would be nice. Maybe add an alternative mode that does singles.

TRAPs need to be easier to kill, but remove the terrible limit on where they can be placed. Except for on bridges, they should not be allowed on bridges.

Bunkers should become a deployable. Give them a lengthy deploy time, lots of armor, and suddenly you can make any spot a viable location to fight from. Variations would be nice.

Sand Bags (or whatever the non specific name is) are also something to be added. Make them a quick setup and perhaps even stackable. If they were somewhat like LEGOs people could make little forts of their own.

Aegis Shield Remove due to redundancy. The AMS/bunkes/sandbags cover this.

Ammo Terminal should be added to allow basic ammunition replenishment. Would have a moderate deploy time, and would go away after a minute or two.


Any improvements and/or additions?



What exactly are the rules on the f-bomb here?

[DviddLeff]

Originally Posted by LordReaver

I feel it's a safe assumption that CE will make PSN, so without further ado...

Spitfires should go underground when they are not firing. This stop friendly vehicles from running over them and destroying them. It also "cloaks" them without making them lame. You can still see they are there, and can still kill them. (I have to admit, I would miss spitbombs )

Good idea.

Cerberus Turrets need to be removed entirely. Aircraft have enough to worry about.

No, infantry need an effective air defense out in the field. Cerberus turrets can only damage/destroy aircraft which are flying low anyway and by the time a Mossie or Reaver is in range they have usually got a cheap kill anyway.

Shadow Turrets Remove due to redundancy (see spitfires).

Agree.

Wall Turrets should be all over the walls, not just corners and gates. They should be easily killable and easily repairable.

Agree.

One Man Turrets Remove due to redundancy (see bunkers below)

Agree.

Motion Sensors should hide underground when a vehicle comes near them (even enemy), or just be small enough to drive over without hurting them, again, this stops vehicles from running over and destroying them.

Agree.

Boomers need to be circular. Triangles are way to easy to spot.

They need to stick to vehicles!

Mines need to be deployed in groups. It doesn't have to be large groups, three at a time would be nice. Maybe add an alternative mode that does singles.

Agree.

TRAPs need to be easier to kill, but remove the terrible limit on where they can be placed. Except for on bridges, they should not be allowed on bridges.

Disgree; if they are easily destroyable putting them on bridges wouldn't matter anyway.

Bunkers should become a deployable. Give them a lengthy deploy time, lots of armor, and suddenly you can make any spot a viable location to fight from. Variations would be nice.

Agree.

Sand Bags (or whatever the non specific name is) are also something to be added. Make them a quick setup and perhaps even stackable. If they were somewhat like LEGOs people could make little forts of their own.

Agree.

Aegis Shield Remove due to redundancy. The AMS/bunkes/sandbags cover this.

Agree.

Ammo Terminal should be added to allow basic ammunition replenishment. Would have a moderate deploy time, and would go away after a minute or two.

I have CR3's being able to deploy these, and they would have a limited supply of equipment like an AMS terminal (no MAX armour).

My comments in yellow.

[CutterJohn]

Just make friendlies pass through spits. Mowing them over with vehicles is a valid tactic.

Cerberus turrets.. Meh. Aircraft have enough to worry about? So does everything else.

Shadow turrets - Rather a silly concept all over.

Wall turrets - Should lower into the courtyard when not in use. When occupied, the operator can raise it to fire, or lower it to avoid fire. Gun tower turrets should pop up from inside.

Motion sensors are fine. I could support placing them in more positions so that they are harder to run over if well placed. Stop friendly drivers from hurting them, if that happens. I can't remember now.

boomers - I'd like to see them be able to be attached to vehicles. Oh, the lulz that could create. I would like to see boomers moved away from CE, as its a much different beast than the rest of the cert, which is concerned with field fortifications. SA might be appropriate.

Mines hurt small vehicles enough. No need for even more of the damned things. If buggies and such were less susceptible to them, maybe.

Bunkers is a nice idea, but I see that as something that a CE does in combination with a lodestar, being able to place large battlefield fortifications.

Sandbags, sure. Stackable ofc won't happen. Also, should be a shield, instead of sandbags, so it doesn't look as weird when friendlies drive through. It might be nifty to make them very difficult to destroy, but the shield portion has relatively fewer hitpoints, and recharges.


Ammo terminal is pretty redundant with an ams or base around. If it were to exist, it shouldn't go indoors, should have a limited supply, and the construction gizmos shouldn't be able to be purchased from it.


As I went into a bit, I'd like to see players with CE and Lodestars able to deploy advanced/heavy fortifications. Dropping an AMS like bundle. The aforementioned bunker. Heavy field turrets. That sort of thing.

[LordReaver]

Originally Posted by DviddLeff

No, infantry need an effective air defense out in the field. Cerberus turrets can only damage/destroy aircraft which are flying low anyway and by the time a Mossie or Reaver is in range they have usually got a cheap kill anyway.

Disgree; if they are easily destroyable putting them on bridges wouldn't matter anyway.

Infantry need cover from air, more than they need a counter to it.

I didn't mean really easy to kill TRAPs, I just meant a little easier. It takes a long time to kill one of them. If the limit on how many can be placed next to each other was removed, imagine trying to break into a CY with how strong they are now. People would place them like 5 deep. That's a lot of ammo not going towards any kills. I guess if infantry could somehow dismantle them, that would be fine also.

[DviddLeff]

Yeah infantry need cover from air; they do not have it currently, so they need the Cerberus Turrets or for the Mossies nose gun COF nerfed.

If Traps could be destroyed with a single Boomer that would be quite cool.

[CutterJohn]

Or viable infantry AA. Dedicated, or alternate fires on the AV weapons that make them better vs air. Well, the striker was mostly fine. The lancer could use a flak round, and the phoenix... just needs to be rethought somehow.

[DviddLeff]

I would rather have separate AA weapons than have an alternative fire mode for the AV ones.

And the Mossies nose gun needs a nerf whatever happens; its a scout aircraft not mean to be a kill whores dream vehicle.

[Tikuto]

Actually, I'd tailor all engineer roles and equipment to make clear difference in battles instead of just putting stuff down.

"What do you mean?"

The Engineer would have their role easy. You place an deployab le item(s) it is works against all vehicles: anti-vehicular. The purpose is to greatly promote field battles away from facilities/urban territories without any vehicles (ground & air), and how many times have we not seen this? -- key information: one field deployable item works against all vehicles effectively.

It means the Engineer has the clear role of something and they do it effeciantly and effectively: anti-vehicular with little time-consuming hassle. Deploying everything for an EMP Blast to jam it all is very aggrivating. So, the Field Turret will have it's uses against anti-infantry or anti-vehicle (ground and air).


Basicly reduce time-consuming effort for more shooty-action fun.

[CutterJohn]

Originally Posted by Tikuto

The purpose is to greatly promote field battles away from facilities/urban territories without any vehicles

Why would you want to promote that? This is a combined arms game. CE should help give infantry a chance vs vehicles if they dig in to a defensible position in the field. It should not banish the threat of vehicles entirely.

[ArcticPrism]

I still don't see why so many people want Cerberus Turrets(and other AA gone). It requires a group of them to do any sort of damage and even then a mere Wasp can fly through them and survive unless it has low hp or no afterburner. All aircraft have at least 2-3x more range. Other aircraft should not be the only threat to aircraft.

I think in general deployable turrets should be more useful. I haven't found much viable use for Spitfires/Shadow turrets other than making it a pain for cloakers to reach my Lodestars. They aren't very useful around bases. It is fairly discouraging/frustrating spending a lot of time and effort placing them around the base just to see all of the work gone with the press of a button from CR emp. I also think that a limit of only 15 is much too low considering they are extremely weak and have half the range of a Sweeper(lol). They even have damage degradation so if you are a Rexo standing at the edge of its range, it only does 5 armor per bullet and no health!

Field turrets(player manned) are very useless. They have poor range, accuracy and they have way too little shield. You'd be lucky if you could take 20% of a tank's hp before being destroyed by it. They should at least have enough shield to do significant damage to vehicles. If they had greater range they could be placed on hills and stuff.

Players should be able to place more mines or EMP mines should have a separate limit from High Explosive mines. Currently no one uses EMP mines because they are vastly inferior to HE mines.

Aegis shield can be useful for hiding vehicles, but I would also like other types of shields. Maybe ones that can be used as cover for infantry or small vehicles. Players that also have hacking stuff should be able to deploy things that enhance radar instead of only on a charged Aegis.

[Hamma]

We need spider clamp turrets.

[Bags]

Originally Posted by LordReaver

I feel it's a safe assumption that CE will make PSN, so without further ado...



Spitfires should go underground when they are not firing. This stop friendly vehicles from running over them and destroying them. It also "cloaks" them without making them lame. You can still see they are there, and can still kill them. (I have to admit, I would miss spitbombs )

Agree


Cerberus Turrets need to be removed entirely. Aircraft have enough to worry about.

Agree


Shadow Turrets Remove due to redundancy (see spitfires).

Agree


Wall Turrets should be all over the walls, not just corners and gates. They should be easily killable and easily repairable.
Not sure, I'd have to see this in game


One Man Turrets Remove due to redundancy (see bunkers below)


Not sure


Motion Sensors should hide underground when a vehicle comes near them (even enemy), or just be small enough to drive over without hurting them, again, this stops vehicles from running over and destroying them.

Agree


Boomers need to be circular. Triangles are way to easy to spot.

Not sure how this actually would affect gameplay


Mines need to be deployed in groups. It doesn't have to be large groups, three at a time would be nice. Maybe add an alternative mode that does singles.

I think the status quo is fine


TRAPs need to be easier to kill, but remove the terrible limit on where they can be placed. Except for on bridges, they should not be allowed on bridges.

I honestly think they should be removed


Bunkers should become a deployable. Give them a lengthy deploy time, lots of armor, and suddenly you can make any spot a viable location to fight from. Variations would be nice.

Not sure, would have to see in game


Sand Bags (or whatever the non specific name is) are also something to be added. Make them a quick setup and perhaps even stackable. If they were somewhat like LEGOs people could make little forts of their own.

Agree


Aegis Shield Remove due to redundancy. The AMS/bunkes/sandbags cover this.

Agree


Ammo Terminal should be added to allow basic ammunition replenishment. Would have a moderate deploy time, and would go away after a minute or two.

Ammo is abundant enough as is, don't think this is necessary.


Any improvements and/or additions?



What exactly are the rules on the f-bomb here?

Red.

[wildcat140679]

Originally Posted by LordReaver

Wall Turrets should be all over the walls, not just corners and gates. They should be easily killable and easily repairable.

With wall turrets I assume your referring to the base/tower turrets.
I don't agree with the easy to be destroyed part. Base turrets have never really been very strong, nor are the much of a threath when unmanned and steered by AI.

Weapons that fire in an arc like lightning cannon, can take out the turret with out getting shot at and even outside the fire range of the turret and there are more weapons that can harm a base turret while staying outside it's shooting range. The have all the time in the world to kill it. Turrets are and will always be sitting ducks!

The base/tower turrets should have no range restriction or be equal to the max weapon range of what ever weapon system. But that's an other topic.

Base turrets should not be easier to destroy, they are going no where and are easy targets.

[Traak]

No way on Auraxis can you remove the Shadows. We don't NEED more advantages for droppers. What do you want next, People to be able to fly their airplanes while in an entire Interlink Base of armor, so when the plane gets low on armor, they jump out, clothed in Voltan, replete with capitol dome?

Not everything in Planetside needs to be something that droppers can easily see from afar and destroy from way beyond rifle range.

No Shadows? Hah! No way! I love the Shadows.

How about no droppers? Then you wouldn't have the people whining so much about shadows, because droppers are the primary source for Shadow gripes. OMG! I can't drop and OMGZ0WNZ0RZ everyone in the tower! What a disaster for Planetside!

Nah. Planetside needs Shadows until it no longer has droppers.

[Bags]

I mainly foot zerg and I absolutely hate shadow spits. At least let me lock onto them with my striker.