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Old 2011-12-16, 01:28 AM   [Ignore Me] #61
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Re: Gamestop "PlanetSide 2 Cancelled"?


Originally Posted by Sifer2 View Post
What difference does it make? If there is no penalty for cheating or being banned. Then there is nothing to stop hackers period. An initial buy in price attached to creating a new account at least imposes some penalty. Every ban cost the hacker 50 bucks or whatever the price of the game is. With this F2P model every ban cost the hacker nothing. They will laugh at the ban an just make a new account to continue their fun.

The fact it was a problem with PS1 free accounts and SOE hasn't learned from it is the worst sign. Everyone seems to be taking it on faith that SOE has found some really good way to deal with cheaters. When no game in history has that i'm aware of. They are banned but they return with new harder to detect hacks. And if its F2P they just return instantly.
+1 my friend. F2P is great in theory if done correctly. The cheater/hacker issue is always a problem in PC gaming. I've played and beta tested a lot of games over the years and I can tell you that F2P is the dream of cheaters. There is NO punishment. Sure you loose the account your using, but cheaters don't care about stats. All they want is to troll and piss people off.

On the other hand if you need to cough up money upfront, even $20, this is less the case. I barely encounter cheaters on games you need to pay for upfront(good server Admin's is always a bonus) as you need to invest money.

F2P will open the door to more players which means big battles. I love that, but SOE better build a kick ass anti-cheat system or the game with flop. Punkbuster won't cut it. Also, Admin's/Mod's and lots of them.
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Old 2011-12-16, 01:30 AM   [Ignore Me] #62
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+1 my friend. F2P is great in theory if done correctly. The cheater/hacker issue is always a problem in PC gaming. I've played and beta tested a lot of games over the years and I can tell you that F2P is the dream of cheaters. There is NO punishment. Sure you loose the account your using, but cheaters don't care about stats. All they want is to troll and piss people off.

On the other hand if you need to cough up money upfront, even $20, this is less the case. I barely encounter cheaters on games you need to pay for upfront(good server Admin's is always a bonus) as you need to invest money.

F2P will open the door to more players which means big battles. I love that, but SOE better build a kick ass anti-cheat system or the game with flop. Punkbuster won't cut it. Also, Admin's/Mod's and lots of them.
Didn't stop hacking in PS1.
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Old 2011-12-16, 01:39 AM   [Ignore Me] #63
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Didn't stop hacking in PS1.
I didn't say upfront cost = ZERO cheating.

Come on buddy...
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Old 2011-12-16, 01:46 AM   [Ignore Me] #64
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I didn't say upfront cost = ZERO cheating.

Come on buddy...
But no cost auto means that cheating will be ramped?

Come on buddy...
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Old 2011-12-16, 01:51 AM   [Ignore Me] #65
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But no cost auto means that cheating will be ramped?

Come on buddy...
Yes actually. Like I said, People cheat/hack for the fun of trolling. Not because they enjoy the game.
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Old 2011-12-16, 01:53 AM   [Ignore Me] #66
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Yes actually. Like I said, People cheat/hack for the fun of trolling. Not because they enjoy the game.
Your right,100% because every other F2P game has hacker problems. LoL, Global Agenda, etc. Silly me.
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Old 2011-12-16, 02:54 AM   [Ignore Me] #67
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Just use the established financial system to verify identity. When little Johnny gets banned after using all Grandma's credit cards, he's done.

Require CC, Paypal, or whatever to verify identity. This resolves the tracking of ip addys, Mac addys, etc...

Can still be free or 1cent charge.
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Old 2011-12-16, 05:58 AM   [Ignore Me] #68
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They said something similar when the cheating started in Planetside. How did they fix it? They disabled the free trials because they couldnt fix the problem.

If cheating gets to the level that it did in Planetside 1 then Planetside 2 will fail faster than APB or whatever it is called.
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PS1 wasn't built on a F2P model.
This is a key point.

But not only that, it is a game that was developed in the late 90's early 2000's. They probably had little to no anti-hacking ability or monitoring tools built in. I'm sure that PlanetSide 2 will be developed with that in mind. These days little kid hackers and asshat people can download cheats freely so they can feel better about themselves. It's almost mainstream.. developers have to design games with that in mind now.
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This is the last VIP post in this thread.   Old 2011-12-16, 11:16 AM   [Ignore Me] #69
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The production of Planetside 2 has of course not been cancelled. All these means is there no current distribution provided through Gamestop.
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Old 2011-12-16, 12:05 PM   [Ignore Me] #70
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The production of Planetside 2 has of course not been cancelled. All these means is there no current distribution provided through Gamestop.
I think he's hinting that there will be distribution in the future. Hopefully a CE.
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Old 2011-12-20, 03:01 PM   [Ignore Me] #71
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I think he's hinting that there will be distribution in the future. Hopefully a CE.
Put it in their catalog NAO. I want to give you muh moneh!
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